Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Fife
Posts: 6528
Got the letter last week,
Phoned local dealers today and got it booked in for Friday,
( bet if I had a problem needing fixed they'd be fully booked for weeks)
Odds on favourite they say towbar is okay but loads of other things needing done.
Don't worry I've got my reply already worked out,
How did you find front wheel bearing needs replacing if you were looking at the tow bar?
Hope they give it a good clean inside as well, D3 57 xs Stornaway grey
D2 02 commercial silver gone but a great servant and won't be forgotten
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22nd Jul 2015 9:51 pm
Alan B
Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Fife
Posts: 6528
Well mine was looked at today ( seemingly as it's a fixed towbar) and none of the bolts were removed as my pencil lines are still there.
No comment on anything else needing done, I did ask after they'd finished
Got a piece of paper to stick in the manual and
Half a car wash, yes they missed loads of bits when meant to be cleaning it
All this still took an hour to do.
D3 57 xs Stornaway grey
D2 02 commercial silver gone but a great servant and won't be forgotten
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24th Jul 2015 7:15 pm
chopcat
Member Since: 08 Apr 2013
Location: Pembrokeshire
Posts: 478
So is there actually a reason why one would toodle over and apparently waste time doing this if you have a fixed bar on already?
I have never been to a main dealer trusting my independent who I guess are out of the picture as far as this is concerned.may the odds be ever in your favor
24th Jul 2015 7:36 pm
Alan B
Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Fife
Posts: 6528
I told them at the time of calling that I had a fixed towbar
But they said it still needed looking at
I'm guessing it's only because they will get x amount per customer whether they do anything or not.
D3 57 xs Stornaway grey
D2 02 commercial silver gone but a great servant and won't be forgotten
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24th Jul 2015 7:41 pm
Fitzy73
Member Since: 09 Feb 2014
Location: Truro
Posts: 2407
Alan, what is this wash thing you speak of? (ok, half wash!).
Mine usually returns dirtier than it arrived at the dealers and I still haven't managed to clean off the marks on the seat and around the starter button yet from its last encounter.Andy
24th Jul 2015 7:43 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8154
I find it unbelievable the number of people who are making ungrateful and uncomplimentary comments on this subject, I cannot imagine any other car manufacturer who would replace a potentially wearing part costing around £1000 on a car over 10 years old without charging a penny.
My experience of Mercedes for instance is the service manager saying to me "can't you afford to repair you car sir" when I asked for a faulty inlet manifold to be changed under warranty, although the car was 3 weeks out of warranty this was the fourth time in eight weeks they had it in for the same fault and could not diagnose it.
Ray Clayton wrote:
Hi
Got mine booked in at Hunters in Derby next Tuesday.
Slight problem.
The old tow bar was chucked in the bin a couple of years ago as it was that bloody loose.
I fitted a witter fixed towbar.
So do i remove that before going and tell them i chucked it as it was unsafe?
No do not remove it, there is no exemption regardless of type, make or where and when the tow bar was purchased even off EBay, just be like me and say "thank you very much Land Rover" It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
24th Jul 2015 7:50 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8154
Fitzy73 wrote:
Alan, what is this wash thing you speak of? (ok, half wash!).
Mine usually returns dirtier than it arrived at the dealers and I still haven't managed to clean off the marks on the seat and around the starter button yet from its last encounter.
Should have taken it to Stratestones It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
24th Jul 2015 7:51 pm
Fitzy73
Member Since: 09 Feb 2014
Location: Truro
Posts: 2407
They couldn't possibly be worse, could they and I bet they have at least sent out their towbar letters.Andy
24th Jul 2015 8:08 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8154
The service I got from Stratestones Nottingham was impeccable It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
24th Jul 2015 8:16 pm
NellyD5
Member Since: 01 Apr 2013
Location: Newton Mearns
Posts: 740
I was all booked in for this months ago and the dealer called to cancel as the recall had been suspended. Do I smell farm based excrement??D3 2005 TDV6 7 Seat Zambezi Silver
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25th Jul 2015 12:30 am
Griffmaster
Member Since: 24 Jun 2006
Location: Different Planet
Posts: 206
Anyone know how exactly the internals of the LR tow hooks work, is there a cam inside which the pin pushes back against?
Surely it is not the (strong) spring alone which prevents this.
The only way that I can see that these tow hooks can become loose (if tight to start) after towing is that towing forces cause the pin to be moved backwards out of the receiver pin hole and back into the hook casting.
My hook has no play or rattle when first inserted but after towing last it became quite loose and the knob had rotated itself anti-clockwise somewhat.
I have been underneath mine and when fitted as normal I can see that the pin has fully engaged through the crossmember casting and there is no play in the unit but the green knob is only about 20 degrees or so from vertical.
As it happens, if I rotate the knob anti-clockwise as far as it will go, still locked with the key out, not pulling the knob outwards, the pin will virtually withdraw fully from the casting with just the tip of the pin engaged.
There only seems the strength of the spring to prevent this but maybe there is a cam or similar inside the hook casting which should lock it but is worn.
The underside of the pin on mine has an angle on its underside, presumably to provide a lead and force the hook up to the top of its aperture in the receiver so noseweight forces have a tendency to act on this angle and push the pin backwards - I would think.
I would have thought that when locked and the key removed that the knob should not rotate at all under road use otherwise the pin could ultimately be forced backwards to the point that only the tip of the pin (as in my case) would be left engaged.
Maybe if the green knob is horizontal when fitted on a new unit, as per most of the library pics on the web, that it cannot be rotated anti-clockwise at all (without pulling the knob outwards)?
Not sure.2015 D4 HSE in Corris Grey
All below gone but still with happy memories
2010 D4 XS in Stornaway Grey
2006 D3 S in Zermatt Silver
2001 Td5 Oslo Blue
1993 300Tdi Arken Grey
Got my letter this week on a 2 month old car!, never fitted the supplied tow bar yet but I still have to take it to the dealer to be checked, if only they were this quick in sorting out the self detaching towing eye cover!2018 D5 3.0 HSE Lux
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26th Jul 2015 12:24 pm
Griffmaster
Member Since: 24 Jun 2006
Location: Different Planet
Posts: 206
Out of interest, just taken mine to the bench and tripped the small pin which activates the main pin.
When the main pin shoots out it is 20mm from the hook casting.
With the key out, the main pin can be pushed back (against spring pressure only, fair old effort) by about 14mm to within on 6mm of the main hook face.
Is this how they are when new anyone know?2015 D4 HSE in Corris Grey
All below gone but still with happy memories
2010 D4 XS in Stornaway Grey
2006 D3 S in Zermatt Silver
2001 Td5 Oslo Blue
1993 300Tdi Arken Grey
26th Jul 2015 2:23 pm
craig manning
Member Since: 04 Sep 2008
Location: essex
Posts: 4
I have managed to gain more lock on the rack and pinion design by dismantling the hole tow ball assembly and moving the locking pin out by one tooth and i was happy that although the tow ball almost instantly worked loose it was much more engaged and safe. I have since dismantled it once again and by drilling and taping back through from the locking pin with a M10 and using a grub screw can coil bind the spring and stop the locking pin from moving back when fitted it dose mean using a allan key to compress the spring and coil bind it and has also included some other internal mods to support the spring. I have only done this work to prove the bad design. but it does fix the tow ball 100% and although the grub screw wont come loose even if it did you would only go back to standard.
26th Jul 2015 4:18 pm
Discoed
Member Since: 16 Jun 2010
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 1020
Got my letter today but as I have already given up on the detachable tow bar and fitted a fixed one I don't think I'll bother.
Also given the amount of slop there was I suspect they would want to replace my rear cross member which would mean I'd have to re-fit my big country spare wheel carrier. I can do without that faff again!
Nice gesture for a 10 year old car but I will be leaving well alone.
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and I bet they have at least sent out their towbar letters.
