Quattrovalvole
Member Since: 30 Oct 2013
Location: Sussex
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Hi all,
Going to have the lower front wishbones changed soon, what with all the wheel sensors that the D3 has just wondered if I also need to get the wheel alignment done after?
Thanks very much.
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 29th Jan 2014 7:09 pm |
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Martin
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| 29th Jan 2014 7:15 pm |
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geoff.
Member Since: 24 Jan 2010
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as martin says will most certainly need doing 
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| 29th Jan 2014 7:19 pm |
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Quattrovalvole
Member Since: 30 Oct 2013
Location: Sussex
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Great, thanks for the replies.
Thats what I thought but I'm glad I checked with the people in the know. I will make sure the people that do it also include for an alignment after the wishbones have been replaced.
Thanks again.
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| 30th Jan 2014 3:08 pm |
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bbyer
Member Since: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Edmonton Alberta
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| Wishbones for the armoured? |
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You might find this link re the armoured 3's interesting.
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/post1234004.html#1234004 2005 LR3 HSE 4.4L AJ-V8 petrol; Traxide Dual Battery; PIAA 2500K Yellow Ion H11 Fog Light bulbs; CounterAct LT-2 Capacitive Corrosion control; LLumar AIR80 Blue clear Infra Red blocking side window film; Liftgate manual release; Schrader Valve "air in" mod to OEM air suspension reservoir tank; Akebono ceramic pads; OEM solid vented discs; LR4 design hitch receiver; Wiggs D4 MOST bluetooth module; Clock on the Dash; 3 Flash signal light mod; Backup Camera; 2015/16 Nav Data update.
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| 9th Feb 2014 9:46 pm |
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Quattrovalvole
Member Since: 30 Oct 2013
Location: Sussex
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Thanks for the link, garage who sold me the car are doing the works so don't think I will be able to wangle improvements as well, will bear in mind for when I need to do it myself though.
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| 10th Feb 2014 10:25 am |
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bbyer
Member Since: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Edmonton Alberta
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| can put the newer post 2008 style on rather than armoured |
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This is a link on Disco3 re the newer post 2008 model year A arms, (not the armoured).
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=926559#926559
Below relates my experience when it came time to replace the lower ball joints. The odds are the people fixing your 3 will be using the new style A arms, (not the armoured but the after 2008 arms), but mine was a 2005. Also it will be less labour for your dealer to put the new A arms on than change the ball joints - better for both the dealer and yourself.
Rather than just replacing the ball joints, I had my local LR Dealer instead, replace both lower A Arms, (left LR028249, right LR028245). Also changed were some steering tie rods ends and both rear stabilizer bar rubber bushings, (part number LR015336).
My 2005 LR3 had 127,000 km, (79,000 miles), on it and this was the first time for ball joints, (city type pavement driving and no intended off road).
I wanted the apparently newer improved design of the ball joints, (part number RBK500280), so all new A arm assemblies seemed the easiest method to achieve that goal. I therefore got new lower control arm bushings as a bonus.
In terms of labour, well flat rate does not yield any savings, but if you were to do the job yourself, buying the new assemblies is I think the route to go. Instead of much banging and cursing and then cutting the three bolts off that hold the assembly on so you can then press out the joint, (well if you have the LR special tool, maybe not so tough), you instead just plan on cutting the three bolts.
In practice, the dealer only had to cut one bolt on each side, (typical, always at least one), as the other two each side, properly unthreaded. Also with buying the complete assemblies, (plus 4 each of RDI000034 Bolt, RYF000203 Washer, FX116056 Nut, Flanged), you will then have all the needed parts instead of running around getting more bolts and bushings etc and more importantly, the job is now relatively straight forward – almost do it yourself, as most of you on the forum seem much more capable than I.
Yes, you will need a 4 wheel alignment, but that was in the plan anyway, as are new tyres.
There is also the view that a lower arm is only good for one replacement ball joint as there is some thought the hole can get distorted from repeated replacement. I am hoping to get closer to 200,000 km, (125,000 miles), out of these new ones - we will see, but the dealer says the new design seems to be holding up quite well. I might add that due to freeze thaw, our main paved roads are a moonscape of pot holes more so than any green lane track I have ever seen, and at least one does run a trail at +100 kph.
After a few days of driving, I was pleased to say that the 3 was now quieter inside, (less suspension banging and road noise from the pavement joints and pot holes coming thru), so at least that part of the plan has succeeded. 2005 LR3 HSE 4.4L AJ-V8 petrol; Traxide Dual Battery; PIAA 2500K Yellow Ion H11 Fog Light bulbs; CounterAct LT-2 Capacitive Corrosion control; LLumar AIR80 Blue clear Infra Red blocking side window film; Liftgate manual release; Schrader Valve "air in" mod to OEM air suspension reservoir tank; Akebono ceramic pads; OEM solid vented discs; LR4 design hitch receiver; Wiggs D4 MOST bluetooth module; Clock on the Dash; 3 Flash signal light mod; Backup Camera; 2015/16 Nav Data update.
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| 10th Feb 2014 3:48 pm |
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Quattrovalvole
Member Since: 30 Oct 2013
Location: Sussex
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Thanks, I will find out what they are planning to use to see if we can come to an agreement. They are replacing the whole lower arms assembly though and I will insist they do an alignment at the same time.
Thanks for the info, very useful.
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| 10th Feb 2014 6:38 pm |
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