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As per the above post, I am sure that the car knows exactly what mpg it's getting - it just 'improves' it for the fuel computer readout. That's why I wondered whether the software could be adjusted to edit out this fiddle factor.
Likewise, I'm sure that the car knows exactly what speed it's doing - it just adds a couple of mph for safety. Over-reading by a few mph is fine but under-reading is illegal, so most cars are set to over-read. Incidentally my old VW Touareg had some aftermarket Bluetooth software addded that also gave access to other engine and system data. This data included the vehicle's mph, which was always less than that shown on the speedometer and the digital readout but bang on that of GPS.
I haven't checked the D4's odometer against a GPS to check its accuracy but would expect that to be about spot on - there's clearly no point in over-reading on that and under-reading would be illegal. Again, my old VW over-read on the speedometer but calculated mileage precisely.
5th Oct 2013 5:35 pm
CUCO
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If you have access to a diagnostic tool such as a Faultmate MSV2 or similar, you can adjust the % variations for fuel and speed independently, so yes, it can be done in software.
Cheers,
Gordonex - 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff - R.I.P.
ex - 2009 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, had lots of stuff too!
Now - 2010 RRS 3.0 TDV6, rimini red, 18" rims + Cooper LTZ, rear eLocker, Spider tuning box, GOE protection plates and rock sliders, GOE 3way shortened rods.
7th Oct 2013 1:13 am
Centaur
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Thanks Gordon, that's very helpful!
Now, short of travelling to Perth, how can I get access to a Faultmate...
7th Oct 2013 5:29 pm
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Need to find out if this % corrections actually works on D4s - have any of our FM users tried this successfully?Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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7th Oct 2013 7:04 pm
disco4x4au
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Robbie wrote:
Need to find out if this % corrections actually works on D4s - have any of our FM users tried this successfully?
Well it works on Australian D4's, so can't see why not. I've done it in my RRS, but need to readjust again due to the change in tyre size.
Cheers,
Gordonex - 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff - R.I.P.
ex - 2009 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, had lots of stuff too!
Now - 2010 RRS 3.0 TDV6, rimini red, 18" rims + Cooper LTZ, rear eLocker, Spider tuning box, GOE protection plates and rock sliders, GOE 3way shortened rods.
8th Oct 2013 1:10 am
Dave T
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Do you have a few more details?Joined the BMWX5 45e group
1994 Defender 90
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2012 D4 XS Orkney Grey
2005 D3 S Maya Gold
Convoy for Heroes 2011
8th Oct 2013 5:55 am
David W
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disco4x4au wrote:
Robbie wrote:
Need to find out if this % corrections actually works on D4s - have any of our FM users tried this successfully?
Well it works on Australian D4's, so can't see why not. I've done it in my RRS, but need to readjust again due to the change in tyre size.
Cheers,
Gordon
Gordon, what parameters can you change?
8th Oct 2013 10:46 am
disco4x4au
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This is particular to using the MSV2, and I might not be remembering all the CCF parameters by their correct name, but IIRC:
There is a different (programmable) parameter for each of "real speed", "odometer" "speedometer" and "cruise control". These are to do with calculations from tyre size and the displayed speed offset for various markets. There is then a separate parameter for the "market" % differentiation for display of fuel consumption. From memory, for the Australian market, most are set to +7%. This can be reconfigured, but just setting it to 0% doesn't guarantee accuracy, as it depends on all the other above parameters as well. You have to play with it a bit (mine is set to -3%).
Cheers,
Gordonex - 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff - R.I.P.
ex - 2009 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, had lots of stuff too!
Now - 2010 RRS 3.0 TDV6, rimini red, 18" rims + Cooper LTZ, rear eLocker, Spider tuning box, GOE protection plates and rock sliders, GOE 3way shortened rods.
9th Oct 2013 2:17 am
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The last Line (Its the D4 CCF editor on the MSV-2)
9th Oct 2013 4:56 am
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Thanks guys!Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Brilliant - thanks for that!
I take it as a given that asking a dealer to readjust these settings will be a waste of time!
So....... is there anyone here that can adjust these settings on my car?
9th Oct 2013 10:41 am
petersw
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On mine Car says 30.9 mpg, true reading is 26.4 Peter
25th Oct 2013 9:24 am
phl
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Yes, I found the reading to be very optimistic. Fortunately beside Faultmate, my IID Tool BT also worked to change the setting for my MY13 D4 such that it's now accurate. From memory, it was -3% (default was +7%) for my tyre/wheel setup.
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