dylansdad
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mine wasnt worn like you describe 
if you took the flat part of the tyre it was worn more on one edge than other - that I could believe was an alignment issue, however in addition to this and the part that caused dealer to take pictures and send off the LR was referred to as casselated and I can onlydescribe as follows....
if you cut the flat part of they tyre so it was in a long strip you would find it thinner in patches (from side to side) going along the whole length. almost like someone had sanded patches thinner around the circumference of the tyre. 2004 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver
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simon
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er... yup one side is lower than the other... so at an angle.
Your wearing will be the same. Its the same tyre and same wear pattern.
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| 25th Sep 2006 7:14 am |
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dylansdad
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no , casselated as in not one side lower than other, rather alternating bald patches and normal tread wear going almost evenly around the circumference of the tyre.
In addition to this strange wearing the 4 wheel alignment showed up a slight settling as in the TSB.... this was put down as the cause of the slight wearing on inside edges of tyres which was worse on the rear.
EDIT: found this on a tyre website,
Tyres wearing unevenly in patches. Faulty or binding brakes or inefficient shock absorbers. 2004 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver
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| 25th Sep 2006 9:42 am |
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DG
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Excuse my ignorance Gents ...but WTF is this 'casselated' word....I've searched all references to tyres, treads or tread wear and found nowt ! The only reference I can find is to nuts  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 25th Sep 2006 10:32 am |
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dylansdad
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yes it baffled me too ... .... but its what dealer called the unusual wear pattern on my D3s tyres.
I guess it may come from some sort of reference to a castle wall type of pattern of wear something like this..... around the surface of the tyre.
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of course it may be a made up term by my dealer.
short search reveals should be spelt : castellated ? 2004 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver
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| 25th Sep 2006 10:53 am |
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DG
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Directory > Words > Dictionary
cas·tel·lat·ed (kăs'tə-lā'tĭd)
adj.
Furnished with turrets and battlements in the style of a castle.
Having a castle.
[Medieval Latin castellātus, past participle of castellāre, to fortify as a castle, from Latin castellum, fort. See castle.]
castellation cas'tel·la'tion n.
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| 25th Sep 2006 10:59 am |
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simon
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Actually DG its this...
Sawtooth edges: MISALIGNMENT
Do the edges of the tread have a sawtooth or feathered appearance? This is caused by erratic scrubbing against the road. The solution is toe-in or toe-out alignment correction.
Seems LR and others refer this type of wear to be 'castellated' in appearance.
Common on Wrangler's mis-aligned or not. The way the rotation is applied to the wheel causes a very slight wobble... over time the wear appears as this saw-tooth pattern. If there is mis-alignment the wear appears far more quickly.
As I said previously it takes a good 10K - 15K miles to start to appear 'normally'
I've had this explained to me by a Goodyear tech some time ago and he was the one that pointed out the inherent design fault in the Freelander's IRD unit. Modified on the 2nd model year onwards. I had mine replaced (along with the tyres by LR) and the wear came far far later on in the life of the tyre and was no where near as pronounced.
It can cause the 'whump whump' sound at speed (surface dependant) and sound like wheel bearing / drive shaft problem.
Usually noticeable on the rears before the fronts.
If you swap the tyres front to back... the 'whumping' sound moves accordingly.
I don't think the Scorpions don't wear like this at all if the alignment is correct.
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| 25th Sep 2006 11:06 am |
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dylansdad
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having spelt it right I found this :
http://www.freelanderclub.co.uk/psjs_faqs/07268229.shtml
as simon indicated previous experience of the problem with LRs.
goodyear tyres being more prone to problem, but interestingly note a fix had to be done on the freelander by altering difs.
This seems to put my dealers decision to blame the compressor into question.
Also coupled with me experiencing some sort of transmission noise/groan especially when cornering (which would be making use of the dif more than a straight line? ) has me wondering if there could be a common cause linking the two?? could a potential issue in this area also possibly cause inefficiency in my mpg?? 2004 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver
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| 25th Sep 2006 11:10 am |
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simon
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Hey... I do know what I am talking about sometimes 
So I won't say I told you so
And it was the Intermediate Reduction Drive (IRD) that was modified / replaced.
If you are on the same set of tyres at 35K miles then I would expect to hear the noises your talking about.
My D3's tyres get nosier the more miles they do. No where near as noisy as the Freelander.
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| 25th Sep 2006 11:14 am |
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dylansdad
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current set now on 10K miles though? and I noticed problem origionally at 10-12K on first set, although it took them till 24k to identify tyres needed changin. ... this is way too low imho, and must mean there is an underlying issue  surely not every D3 on wranglers has to have tyres swapped out every 10K miles to keep road noise down? why did they blame compressor? ..... I should just give up trying to understand this one  
ps wear pattern Im referring to as castellated is def not feathering on edges... its like someone has sanded stripes across the tyre surface every 8 inches or so.
pps never doubt anyones expertise in comparisson to my own just its hard to explain these things clearly 2004 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver
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| 25th Sep 2006 11:19 am |
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DG
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simon wrote:Hey... I do know what I am talking about sometimes
So I won't say I told you so
Of course, I wasn't questioning anything other than the spelling Couldn't find any info on it ...but now all is clear 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 25th Sep 2006 11:28 am |
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dylansdad
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yes speeling is nut my strung piont given I tipe withoot cheking whuts cum up and just priss send. 
wheres a spell shecker for posts when you need one 2004 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver
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| 25th Sep 2006 6:27 pm |
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simon
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dickgriff wrote:simon wrote:Hey... I do know what I am talking about sometimes
So I won't say I told you so
Of course, I wasn't questioning anything other than the spelling Couldn't find any info on it ...but now all is clear
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| 25th Sep 2006 7:13 pm |
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AndrewS
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It has hasn't it In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 25th Sep 2006 9:00 pm |
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simon
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AndrewS wrote:It has hasn't it
eh ? what has hasn't it ?
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| 25th Sep 2006 10:57 pm |
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