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NoDo$h
 


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D5 cleaner than a Clio

WLTP data is starting to come out and it's pointing out some interesting and awkward facts.

Disco5 gets an A rating for NOx, while the Clio gets an E.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/a...rmini.html

Kudos to the Ingenium team for this! Thumbs Up

Edit: for those completely unable to see past the fact it's a report in the mail*, here's the original data source

https://www.airindex.com

(*Yeah, I think it's generally execrable, but it's the one source that made it into my Google news feed with this story today)
 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no. 

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It looks as if they tested the 3.0l. It’s not the Ingenium, it’s the same engine as the D4. Possibly with single turbo though if TD6
 

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Emissions new discovery

Article ref the new discovery

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/a...rmini.html


   
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Its in the Daily Mail it must be a lie Rolling with laughter The truth is out there.
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Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up
   
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https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/105...en-ratings

Measured at 33mg/km

The D4 would not be the same, you do not get the oil dilution feature!! Whistle
  
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lynalldiscovery
 


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I wonder if its a simple as they make it out to be?
Im not being secptical but I cant believe a car whos engine is twice the size and weighs at least twice as much and auto can be cleaner than the frenchie?

For example theres Euro 6 and then theres the latest Euro6, will have to google as I cannot remember what its called!

The Renault is a 2017 model, the Disco a 2018 model, Im sure a 2018 Renault was really hard to get hold of, you know as they are a really rare car!

Not forgetting that Reanult are tied in with Nissan and Dacia (both in the same chart) and might even supply the engines.
  
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This is encouraging in some way and does prove the newer engines are far cleaner than the older diesels, what impact does adblue have on these readings.
 If it ain't broke... Take it apart anyway, how else you gonna find out how it works  
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Pelyma wrote:
Its in the Daily Mail it must be a lie...


Always a good rule of thumb Thumbs Up
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jimbg wrote:
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/105342/new-air-index-car-emissions-system-launches-with-red-amber-and-green-ratings

Measured at 33mg/km

The D4 would not be the same, you do not get the oil dilution feature!! Whistle


Are you sure it’s not on an AA wagon? Wink Laughing
 DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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Edited my original post for the smarty pants who would rather stay woke by focusing on the headline source rather than the data source

https://www.airindex.com
 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.  
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But the Wail is the bestest paper ever Whistle
  
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Grunders wrote:
This is encouraging in some way and does prove the newer engines are far cleaner than the older diesels, what impact does adblue have on these readings.


The SCR system plus the DPF plus the DOC is whats making E6 diesels so clean.
The downpipe befoe the cats is still the same old sooty dirty mess that diesels have always been, after the cats the tail pipes are totally spotless.

I can remember only 30 odd years ago standing in the shed when one of the guys had finished yet another gardner rebuild and the whole place was smoked out and we all had to go outside for a fag break Shocked
  
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