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ontheridge
Member Since: 12 Oct 2005
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 59
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So it looks like HT+ is the way to go for the next set of tyres, considering were i have been with the wrangler, snow & rock in the high country, gravel roads throughout SA, with no problems i an confident the Coopers will be fine whilst the family grows up a little (now dealing with 6 week old daughter and 17 mth old son), next real off road trip is a while away.
Thanks for your advice
Cheers D4 TDV6 MY13' - 2 weeks away!
RRS S/C MY10' - muchly loved and just gone
D3 TDV6 SE MY06' - loved and gone
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18th Apr 2007 11:40 am |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
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ontheridge wrote: next real off road trip is a while away.
here perhaps
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18th Apr 2007 12:15 pm |
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Discojames
Member Since: 26 Apr 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 35
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Is Coopers / BFG or Mickey Thompson bringing out any serious AT offroad tyres (like the Cooper ST's or STTs) in 18 inch versions in the forseeable future?
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26th Apr 2007 12:48 pm |
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PCH
Member Since: 12 Jan 2005
Location: Anywhere but work
Posts: 812
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Discojames,
Simon_arch1 has "Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18" which is the closest to an AT in an 18". They seem to clear okay but not sure about the spare wheel since they are 32.1" diameter compared to 30" OEM Wrangler.
Chris 2011 Discovery 4 (MY12) SDV6 HSE with General Grabber AT's, Traxide Aux Battery system, custom rear drawers and Autosafe half height cargo barrier
Gone - 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE
ARB Bull Bar, Warn 9.5XP Winch, IPF D/Lights, Cooper STT's, LR Raised Air Intake, Traxide aux battery system, custom drawers and half height Autosafe cargo barrier, Mitchell Bros 4x4 tow hitch
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27th Apr 2007 5:47 am |
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Craig S
Member Since: 24 Sep 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 12
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Discojames,
I looked into fitting the Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 but hit a snag; in NSW these tyres are “not legal†due to their size. An engineering certificate can be obtained for around $400 but in order to get this certificate a speedo correction unit needs to be fitted. These units cost in the region of $250 excluding fitment. I'm under warrantee and do not want to create a "sticky situation" and decided not to fit these tyres. I asked Simon_arch1 if they fit into the tyre well and they do "with a little tyre grease and a little persuasion" to quote Simon.
Craig
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27th Apr 2007 9:29 am |
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Discojames
Member Since: 26 Apr 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 35
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Thanks for the info. It sounds like they may also cause some rubbing when articulated if they are that tight to fit. Had the same problem with the series one Disco when I fitted larger wheels - ended up having to cut 1 inch of the rear guard - not something I would want to repeat with a new car!
Maybe I will wait until I wear out the standard tyres. How good are the standard tyres off road - mainly rocks, dirt and some mud? Does the rear electric diff lock and traction contol compensate for the tyres?
Thanks James
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27th Apr 2007 1:12 pm |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
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the standard tyres puncture easily and can get sliced up too, this is my experience to date but apart from that it has not stopped me going to where I want to go, proper mud might be a different story. I would run with them for a while and keep an eye on them re. pressures, uneven wear and wait until the Grabbers arrive or something else hits the shelves.
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27th Apr 2007 2:53 pm |
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PBob
Member Since: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Mudgee NSW
Posts: 167
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I had my Coopers (HT+) fitted yesterday and the tyre bloke also did my alignments both front and rear which were out - hence the scrubbed two RH. (Particularly the rear). He is pretty sure he got it right and I got him the degrees off the site. Back to him at 15,000km or sooner to keep an eye on things. Incidently, $379.00 for the tyres and $110.00 to do the alignment. He said the tricky bit with the alignment was the settling of the air suspenion with the engine off and understanding where the angles etc are coming from. Wranglers stuffed at 36,000km. 2006 HSE TDV6 Bonatti Grey, ECB bull bar, tropical roof, LG Next G car kit, Tom Tom GPS, UHF, Mitchell Bros tow bar, Kimberley Kamper Limited Edition camper trailer and 23 foot Haines Signature half cabin (Towed separately!)
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27th Apr 2007 9:47 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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We should change this post to:
255/60/18 AT Tyres- NOT AVAILABLE!
They are now saying June-July
Manufacturers have been leading them along but they don't seem to care to do anything about it.
I don't think he even looked at my e-mail.
Cooper HTs may be the way to go as the Wranglers don't last.
I have run out of other options and time. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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1st May 2007 2:43 am |
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otresb
Member Since: 27 Nov 2005
Location: melbourne
Posts: 21
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Spoke to dealer, said have changed to All weather wranglers. But I am confused about the alignment. One dealer says 4 hrs @ $125/hr, another LR dealer $60 to put car into alignment mode and tyre fitter will charge approx $80 to align 4 wheels.
Can anyone explain what is going on?
PS anyone had all weather fitted and how do they handle and what is the road noise like.
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1st May 2007 7:04 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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otresb wrote:Spoke to dealer, said have changed to All weather wranglers. But I am confused about the alignment. One dealer says 4 hrs @ $125/hr, another LR dealer $60 to put car into alignment mode and tyre fitter will charge approx $80 to align 4 wheels.
As far as I understand it this is what will need to happen, either get another quote from another dealer or if your old tyres were unevenly worn the dealer should do it under warranty anyway.
otresb wrote:PS anyone had all weather fitted and how do they handle and what is the road noise like.
I have had them on mine from new they are ok bu chip easily off road and they wear quick; at 30K they are worn out. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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1st May 2007 7:49 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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Just got this back from UK tyre site:
Dear Sir
Thank you for contacting 4site 4x4 tyre centre.
With regards to your enquiry,
The General Grabber At2 in the size 255 60 18 has just been available in the UK for the last 2 weeks, we don’t actually give out prices all I can do is put in touch with your nearest dealer. In this instance the best thing to do is re-contact your supplier and tell him that they are available in the UK for export.
Any problems please feel free to contact me again
If you would like any further information regarding 4x4 wheels or tyres then please feel free to contact us. You can respond to this e-mail or call our team on 0870 9009 444
Kind Regards
Tom Smith-Phelps
4x4 Southam Tyres
tom.phelps@southamtyres.co.uk
I have forwarded it to Dynamic tyres, but as they do not appear keen, maybe we could get someone else to get them from the UK?
How many of us are waiting? “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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1st May 2007 1:06 pm |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
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me
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1st May 2007 1:14 pm |
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bkehoe
Member Since: 24 Feb 2006
Location: Wexford
Posts: 1481
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Look at http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic11012.html
They have experience in exporting them (to Ireland at least!) and have the 18s in stock now (well they did last week anyway). Might be worth seeing what it'd cost to get them sent to Aus. IE - 05 D3 TDV6 HSE - Zambezi Silver
SA - 07 VW Golf TDI - White - Sold!
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1st May 2007 1:21 pm |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
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cheers for that. have fired off an email and see what goes.
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1st May 2007 2:26 pm |
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