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Diggerdoc
 


Member Since: 03 Jul 2012
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Ireland 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Unknown ColourDiscovery 3

Thats Fantastic Robbie, Thanks a million. Thumbs Up


They nearly seem too low!! But im well on the good side if thats the case.

Think ill try another gauge tomorrow too, im still getting 28-30 psi (2bar) at idle!! not the 10psi (0.7 bar) as listed!!

ill do a few checks tomorrow and let you know wat i find.


Thanks again

Steve
  
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Diggerdoc
 


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Ireland 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Unknown ColourDiscovery 3

Hi all,

Apologies for the very slow reply!!

Just to update on the oil pressure readings i got, on both my own (after an oil pump replacement) and a friends disco.

At idle upon cold start pressure raises to just over 30 psi

as the temp rises the pressure drops to approx 26/28 psi and maintains this pressure at idle when disco is warm

As you put a rev on, the pressure raises along with the revs, the needle will shoot up and down in conjuction with the throttle response well up to 65/68 psi at 3500-4000rpm

The figures listed on topixs are the very minimum required from what i can understand, they are not listed as max/min but they really are extremely low!! with 10psi at idle and 27psi at 3500 rpm.

Thanks a mil for all the help

Steve
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Glenn of Belgium
 


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Just like to know where you can measure the oil pressure on the TDV6.

I would like to install a proper gauge in the car to.

Kind regards!
Glenn

Oh, the links with pictures for how to change the pump is not working Question
  
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tareqyounis
 


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I replaced the oil seal without the tool, unfortunately it still leaked, I went ahead and purchased the tool and installed a new seal using the tool, sadly its still leaking, is it possible that there might be something wrong with the crankshaft surface? does the oil seal wear out the crankshaft surface over time?
  
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Flack
 


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tareqyounis

What tool did you get, the proper tool or just the plastic sleeve tool, I have seen some cranks that have a mark on them from where the oil seal has been sitting, but never had one leak after fitting a new seal with the OEM tool.

There are 3 parts to the tool, one to slide the seal on to part A of the tool, that then enables you to fit the seal on to part B of the tool, Then part 3 of the tool is the part you use to knock the seal in, this has a recess so when the seal is knocked fully in it sets the seal to right amount in the casing.


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Is the V8 or V6 petrol different though? Taryqyounis is in USA.
  
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Flack
 


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It would help if he filled in his profile for what model he had.

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tareqyounis
 


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i have a 2006 discovery 3 TDV6 , 160,000 km, this information is updated in my profile but i have no clue why it doesn't show up in my posts, sorry.
i have the genuine LR tool (2 part sleeve), i don't have the tool that pushes the seal into place, i built my own (please see attached pics), i made sure the seal slides into the "new" oil pump housing about 1mm beyond the lip. now that i have replaced the oil seal twice and since its still leaking i have a bad feeling that the mark on the crank is whats causing the leak.
any help is appreciated.
thank you
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You must be about the only person in the US driving a modern Landrover Diesel.

Garry
  
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A1GSS
 


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tareqyounis wrote:
i have a 2006 discovery 3 TDV6 , 160,000 km, this information is updated in my profile...

It's in your signature, not your profile. Profile updates show the vehicle spec alongside your avatar.
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tareqyounis wrote:
i have a 2006 discovery 3 TDV6 , 160,000 km, this information is updated in my profile but i have no clue why it doesn't show up in my posts, sorry.
i have the genuine LR tool (2 part sleeve), i don't have the tool that pushes the seal into place, i built my own (please see attached pics), i made sure the seal slides into the "new" oil pump housing about 1mm beyond the lip. now that i have replaced the oil seal twice and since its still leaking i have a bad feeling that the mark on the crank is whats causing the leak.
any help is appreciated.
thank you


Are you installing the seal dry? There's a PTFE sealing lip that the manufacturer specifies must be installed without grease or oil, the shaft surface must also be completely dry.
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Used rubber grease installing my front main... no leaks 50K later.

Genuine seal used.
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KostasA
 


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Hi to all,
four months back got a TDV6 model 2009. Millage was 42.000 miles. once went for service (a week after) was advised to change the timing belt as well, which i did. A week after cars stops, when pulled to the mechanic timing belt was broken plus the housing of pump oil. to my surprise i realised that the champion that changed the belt changed only the actual belt and nothing more. any way bought all set from the beginning plus new oil pump housing (with the reinforcement) from the UK.
once installed the oil light was on, when measured the indication was 10psi flat no matter rpm or engine temperature. as of now the whole engine has been dismantled and no blockage has been found. so car is at the mechanic shop 3 months now.
any advise will be extremely helpful. please keep in mind that i just moved to nairobi, and to find a good mechanic here is like winning the lottery.
can someone outline the correct procedure of replacing the oil pump, do they need to prime it first? things are so difficult here.

thanks in advance.
  
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Rich84
 


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Some recommend priming. I didn't prime mine as the LR workshop manual instructions didn't specifically call for it. Had no problems with low oil pressure on startup. The relief valve is built into the back of the pump - if it were not working properly you would not have control over oil pressure.

In your case though I would be very surprised if something didn't get broken when your original oil pump/timing belt failed. The valves are perpendicular to the pistons, so the rockers and cam caps usually take the brunt of the force in this situation. My best guess is that you have one or more damaged lifters and/or cam caps that is creating an open circuit in the oil supply system, hence not being able to get above 10psi.
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KostasA
 


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Greece 

Hi,
did check the whole upper part from camshaft, to valves, to rockers, to cam caps, everything and to my luck everything is ok. don't have a clue how to proceed. all parts are ok and not sure when pit them back if the pressure will be restored.
any ideas??

thanks.
  
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