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Disco_Mikey
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

Starter out, and lock the flywheel in the first instance

Belt has either stretched affecting the timing, or not been set properly...
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Post #154638317th Oct 2015 8:46 pm
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JuanT
 


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Spain 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Arctic FrostDiscovery 3
Done and dusted

hummf,
Done my 06 Disco over the weekend plus some time the previous!..... must be my old age but getting this done in 5hours was beyond me.
Nothing specific to add except thanks to Disco_Mikey and all the feedback, most helpfull.

A few comments:
The rear belt was a real pain and as mentioned you want to get all the pipes cabling out of the way...even so you end up with some nice scratches and bumps on your hands and forearms... shoes SWMBO that you were actually doing something. Getting the idler pully in place and its bolt was surreal...With a bit of american tape I taped a socket to the bolt to get a bit more leverage for my fingers....and to stop it dropping down the back of the engine.

I made up my own camshaft aligning tools, 5.9 diameter for the first 15 mm then 6.0 diameter for the rest

Most usefull tool... the closed foam mat for lying on top of the engine and on the floor...great knee saver Wink

cheers John
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Geoff at Drym
 


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England 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

When removing the fan don't forget that it's a LEFT HAND THREAD. And you need a big spanner or equally big adjustable. You may also need to make up a tool to fit on to the pulley bolts to hold everything whilst you undo the main fan shaft. Neutral
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Post #156184516th Nov 2015 11:41 am
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Irwin
 


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Pump install

Doing the belts and pump and was looking on topix. It says to put sealant on the engine before fitting the pump. What did ye use for this?

"Apply sealant WSE-M4G323-A5 in an 3mm bead to the two areas shown, also apply a smear of sealant to the gasket face as illustrated."

  
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Flack
 


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You dont need any sealant, I always just use grease so that nothing gets picked up and it slides in position without trapping the seal.
Just grease all the seals, but do not put anything on the crankshaft oil seal, fit this dry, but be very careful when fitting it, as the seal lip can easily be turned inside out when fitting it.

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Geoff at Drym
 


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I agree with you Flack. If you put sealant on the bottom gasket it will only spread when you slide the pump into place. Bit messy and will not achieve a proper seal. Smooth some grease over the gasket and slide the pump on slowly and smoothly.
Also, I pulled the pump up tight with the horizontal bolts and then slackened them off a fraction so that the long vertical bolts could be pulled up tight on the bottom (greased) gasket, then retightened the main bolts again. So far 2000 miles and no leaks.
That's the way I did it................ for what it's worth! Smile
And definitely don't put anything on the crankshaft seal. As Flack says, fit it dry and carefully and don't turn the engine over for at least four (4) hours after fitting said seal. Thumbs Up
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Post #158520631st Dec 2015 11:15 am
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Flack
 


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[quote]and don't turn the engine over for at least four (4) hours after fitting said seal. Thumbs Up[quote]

Not sure where this comes from, but I have done a couple of hundred oil pump casings now, and as soon as I am ready to start the car up after fitting them I have done, not waited for four hours, never had any problems with them...

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Post #158523731st Dec 2015 1:08 pm
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Disco_Mikey
 


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That is in the official repair instructions, that it must be left for 4 hours

But, I have also never done this Thumbs Up
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Post #158523831st Dec 2015 1:13 pm
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Geoff at Drym
 


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You're right Mike, I followed the official instructions so hence my comment. However you and Flack and the others are all experienced Disco fixers and therefore I'm sure these instructions are for LR to be super safe. I suspect that the time you guys take from fitting the pump to when you turn the engine over is obviously more than adequate. Thumbs Up
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Post #158530831st Dec 2015 4:23 pm
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Irwin
 


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Grease it is then. The old tensioner has the letter E in its window. Is it supposed to be like that or is the belt well worn? Also i think its the aircon pump on the left of the engine is wet and caked in dirt. Would this just be oil from changing the filter.






  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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The belt has lost a fair amount of tension, as the pointer should be inside that cut out on the tensioner. But that is to be expected...
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Post #15857981st Jan 2016 7:42 pm
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Irwin
 


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Are the water pump bolts tightened to 10nm? Cant find the info anywhere.

Edit: found it, they are 10nm.
  
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Irwin
 


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All back together and no bang or oil leaks so far. I fitted the new oil pump, water pump and alternator. The aux belt was in poor enough condition with many cracks and the upper/lower tensioners were making a grinding noise so will be replaced as well in the next few days. I also took off the butterfly box and cleaned it out as it was caked in sut. Big thanks to DM and all the replies and help. I feel alot better to finally have that oil pump out Thumbs Up


  
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So, got the bits from Steve (AF) and "extra" tools as pointed out by Nasher, ready to follow DM's excellent write-up.

Now the question is: Am I brave enough to use the paint approach or "whip" the starter off Question If I go the starter route, am I looking for an alignment hole in the flywheel for the special doberry that came with the cam pins to fit into?

Hoping for nice weather (not putting much faith in the £17.99 gazebo from Argos keeping me dry!) this weekend.
  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

If you do lock the flywheel, remove the belt cover and get the cam pins located first, then take them out.

The flywheel timing hole will not be far away at that point Thumbs Up
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