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Halge
 


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Battery charger or disconnect?

Hi all!
My D3 will have to stay in the garage for 6 months.
Can I just disconnect the battery or will this give me a lot of problems when reconnecting it?

Or is there some battery charger which I can use while I'm away?
Any ideas what type and brand? It's for a TDV6 2.7.

Thanx!
Jelle
  
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ELD70
 


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http://www.ctekchargers.co.uk/ctek-xs3600.php

You could leave this on trickle charge I believe.
 Now driving BMW 330d Touring....misses D3...but not when at traffic lights Smile  
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Hi Halge, 3 months is the maximum period that you can leave a standard cranking battery for with out charging it and even this is pushing it, plus the battery needs to be full charged before leave it.

You should try to charge an unused battery at least once a month.

In your case, all you need is a cheap small current capacity multi stage charger and hook it up to the cranking battery and leave it there while the D3 is not in use and you don’t need to disconnect the battery from the vehicle.
 2008 TDV8 RR Lux + 2009 D4 2.7  
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drivesafe,
Apologies for confusing the issue but the manual says disconnect from car when charging?? Is it really safe to leave it on. Question
 Regards, Trev.
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I leave my optimate on for a week at a time, with the battery still connected to the car and there has been no issues to report!
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2005 D3 SE - Gone 
 
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London Lad
 


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TSR2 wrote:
drivesafe,
Apologies for confusing the issue but the manual says disconnect from car when charging?? Is it really safe to leave it on. Question


It's safe to leave low current trickle or maintenance chargers on with the battery connected. Because they don't provide high currents they don't increase the voltage at the battery terminals that much. It's the high voltage at the battery terminals that is dangerous to electronics in the car. The charger should also be of a reasonable quality so as to provide a 'spike free' output.

Some manufacturers recommend 7 amps as being the maximum current for on car charging. I would be inclined to keep it a little lower.
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I think the recommendation to disconnect the battery is to protect vehicle electronics if your charger was trying to deliver a high charge rate and so supplying at a much higher voltage, if it is only trickle charging then its supply voltage will not be much above the vehicle battery voltage anyway. Certainly over the years I have never disconnected the battery (as you lose all the radio codes etc),when trickle charging, and never come to any harm.
  
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London Lad
 


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Sorry, just saw that you addressed your question to drive safe Embarassed
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Halge
 


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Ok! So I need a 12 volts "trickle charger" at lower than 7 amps!?
Any ideas on which make and model I should consider?
Thanx!
Jelle
  
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Phil1644
 


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Jelle, if you are leaving your D3 unused for 6 months there are other things to consider as well, eg taking the wheels off or propping on axle stands so you dont get flats on the tyres. Being quite new to the Forum I am not sure if this has already been covered but certainly some of the "classic car" websites should give further advice.
  
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Halge
 


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Phil,
Didn't think about the tyres... Great tip!
Thanks a lot!
  
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London Lad
 


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Halge wrote:
Ok! So I need a 12 volts "trickle charger" at lower than 7 amps!?
Any ideas on which make and model I should consider?
Thanx!
Jelle


I use a commercial charger but folks speak highly of the Ctek ones (linked above)
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London Lad,
Thanks for the answer. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
 Regards, Trev.
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EPB off may also be a good idea.

Hold the switch down whilst you turn off and remove the key will do this. Obviously chock the wheels so it can't roll away though Smile
  
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ctek xs3600!

My freelander diesel van wouldn't start in the -15 week before last, overnight on the ctek and it flew over. It even has a cold setting for increasing the charge voltage at sub zero temps.

cheap as chips fro 45 quid.

Pom
  
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