tintenter
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Oldham
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Hi All, has anyone been able to cure the vibration in the steering wheel when braking without having to change the brake discs, the car has only done 65000 miles and is on its 4th set of disks, the last time it was upgraded to 380mm discs and 6 pot Brembo style calipers and the shake comes back every time after about 2000 miles  I am now starting to think that it is something more severe than a warped disc.
if anyone  can shed any light on this issue I would be grateful as I really don't want to change the discs again before its MOT Tintenter
Corris Grey Discovery 4 HSE
Bigger permagrin now installed
Semper in excretum, sole profundum moveat.
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 6th Jan 2023 12:23 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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I rejected a new D4 for the same problem. The thread is on here. I thought it was that one or both of the guns weren’t “true”. It wasn’t.
Fortunately I had LR finance on it and they stepped in and the outcome was very satisfactory. It didn’t occur on my other three D4’s.
From memory, Gareth and some others had the same issue. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 6th Jan 2023 1:39 pm |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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tires
or unbalanced wheels
had same
good luck
G
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| 6th Jan 2023 2:26 pm |
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Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
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Mine was down to a wheel bearing, there was no play when tested on the car, but when it was off it made a terrible noise.
Dave 2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)
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| 6th Jan 2023 2:42 pm |
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tintenter
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Oldham
Posts: 1112
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Thanks for the replies guy's, I am about due to change the wheels around for even wear and will see if that has any effect. other than that looks like I am spending more money to change bearings and track rod ends as that's all that's left as it already has had front lower wishbone bushes done. Tintenter
Corris Grey Discovery 4 HSE
Bigger permagrin now installed
Semper in excretum, sole profundum moveat.
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| 6th Jan 2023 3:51 pm |
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eightfoot
Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
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mine was front lower arms put a breaker bar on a wheel nut and see how much the wheel moves when levering on it (back forward) please excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4
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| 6th Jan 2023 4:05 pm |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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LT wrote:I rejected a new D4 for the same problem.
From memory, Gareth and some others had the same issue.
I too had the same problem with my new MY11 D4 Landmark and went through the rejection process.
Back then there was a TSB out for the issue, but my chassis number was outwith that, so all LR allowed the dealer to do was a "sticking plaster" approach by just replacing the discs & pads.
Getting fed up with multiple replacements, I then wrote to CEO Ralf Speth rejecting the D4.
Well all hell let loose, there were LR HO personnel sent to my dealer Ripon LR.... my service manager wondered who I really was getting this sort of attention & action....
... the short of it .... it got sorted properly! ...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
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| 6th Jan 2023 4:34 pm |
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chugga90
Member Since: 13 Aug 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
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Mine did that.
It had new discs, pads, new lower arms, new top arms, new wheel bearings. The wheels got dizzy changing them around, including spare set.
None of that fixed it.
Does very few miles now but at 154,000.
During the first covid lockdown, it was not used. When it did get used after four months. It had healed itself?
Seems fine still now, fingers crossed and touching wood! Discovery commercial tdv6 auto 2013
Volkswagen t6 lwb Kombi dsg 4motion 2018
Volkswagen t5.1 lwb single cab tipper 2013
Discovery commercial sdv6 auto 2014 gone and not really missed.
Range Rover Tdv8 gone
Freelander 2 I6 very sadly gone
VW t5 Dsg gone and missed
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| 6th Jan 2023 4:37 pm |
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tintenter
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Oldham
Posts: 1112
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RONP would really love to know what they did to sort it properly! Tintenter
Corris Grey Discovery 4 HSE
Bigger permagrin now installed
Semper in excretum, sole profundum moveat.
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| 6th Jan 2023 7:24 pm |
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Flatlander
Member Since: 20 Jul 2015
Location: Here
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What size wheels have you got fitted? there are two different racks, one has additional internal damping for L319/320 fitted from factory with larger wheels.
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| 6th Jan 2023 8:02 pm |
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tintenter
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Oldham
Posts: 1112
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wheels are 20" factory fitted but I do have 30mm spacers fitted front and rear since new, a little further info is that the vibration only started after the first change of disc and pads, never had it at the start. Tintenter
Corris Grey Discovery 4 HSE
Bigger permagrin now installed
Semper in excretum, sole profundum moveat.
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| 6th Jan 2023 9:29 pm |
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Flatlander
Member Since: 20 Jul 2015
Location: Here
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OEM discs or drilled & grooved?
I'd also check the inner edge of the tyres for stepping / castellation
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| 6th Jan 2023 10:58 pm |
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tintenter
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Oldham
Posts: 1112
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The first three sets were OEM Flat 360mm discs, the last set was 380mm discs, and the new 6 pot calipers were from Advance Factors so no cutting corners. but vibration continues to reoccur after around 2000 miles. Tintenter
Corris Grey Discovery 4 HSE
Bigger permagrin now installed
Semper in excretum, sole profundum moveat.
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| 7th Jan 2023 1:46 pm |
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Flatlander
Member Since: 20 Jul 2015
Location: Here
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What pads did you fit? I doubt it's the issue but when was the last brake fluid change?
If you can, take the pads out and give the leading edges a chamfer with a hand file, see if that changes anything.
Ideally the discs & hubs need a runout check but that's probably beyond what equipment you have available. (unless you have an ex-BT dial test indicator  )
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| 7th Jan 2023 2:22 pm |
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tintenter
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Oldham
Posts: 1112
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Flatlander, good shout on the possible runout (and how did you know I used to work for BT) I had crossed my mind, pads at the moment are Delphi but willing to try anything to find the cause and cure. The brake fluid has been changed 2 months ago when I had the belts and major service done. Tintenter
Corris Grey Discovery 4 HSE
Bigger permagrin now installed
Semper in excretum, sole profundum moveat.
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| 7th Jan 2023 6:11 pm |
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