Member Since: 26 Jun 2022
Location: Mansfield Woodhouse
Posts: 6
New owner since yesterday already needs help 😅 juddery D3
Hello everyone!
I bought a 2005 disco 3 2.7 v6 yesterday, the car is a manual and supposedly has recently had a new clutch (no proof...yes I know..) which has a fault...now I'm in trouble with the wife if anyone can offer advice I would be very grateful!
So...
Test drove seemed OK but rocked back and forth slightly/juddered and seemed to struggle going uphill - if I'm honest I just thought I was in the wrong gear, engine was sweet and everything worked so I bought the car.
On the way home an amber 'P' light came on which I think is park brake fault (the parking brake works fine goes on and off no probs and 25 mile journey back wheels didn't get hot so I assume nothing is sticking) The car was awful at low speeds and when accelerating juddery and seemed like it was struggling. There were no noises, no clanging or crunching etc however there is a sort of whirring/droning/spinning that increases with acceleration and isn't there at idle or low revs, if you accelerate very slowly it's OK. Gear changes were fine and when cruising in 6th it was slightly noticeable but pretty much gone.
I followed some Internet advice and reversed, went through the gears, locked and unlocked the car which reset the light (probs what the seller did before I arrived..) bizarrely this has partly resolved the issue and whist it is still there it is much better but definitely not right.
If you have read this far thankyou! Any advice will be gratefully appreciated.
Mike
26th Jun 2022 3:36 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14004
Hi
Welcome to the asylum
Personally would first ensure the battery is ok, with the engine off should be a min of 12.6 Vdc , ensure ur rear brake lights are all working correctly
Then get it plugged into diagnostics , due to the complexity of these vehicles it’s advantageous to have ur own code reader , plus a basic multimeter , there are a couple of scanners which many of us use
An Autel AP200 there are different colours , white one is the best one to get , there very basic but for around £50 are extremely handy to have in ur glove box
For a more detailed in depth scanner there’s the gap iid, alas there around £420 but will do virtually everything that ur need out of a scanner
Like all faults please always begin with the basics otherwise ur start chasing ur tail and not getting anywhere
Lastly hope u don’t mind me adding but have u ensured the timing belts, oil pump etc have been replaced
Hope that helps a little
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26th Jun 2022 4:41 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14268
Re: New owner since yesterday already needs help 😅 juddery D3
Mikec1977 wrote:
Hello everyone!
I bought a 2005 disco 3 2.7 v6 yesterday, the car is a manual and supposedly has recently had a new clutch (no proof...yes I know..) which has a fault...now I'm in trouble with the wife if anyone can offer advice I would be very grateful!
So...
Test drove seemed OK but rocked back and forth slightly/juddered and seemed to struggle going uphill - if I'm honest I just thought I was in the wrong gear, engine was sweet and everything worked so I bought the car.
On the way home an amber 'P' light came on which I think is park brake fault (the parking brake works fine goes on and off no probs and 25 mile journey back wheels didn't get hot so I assume nothing is sticking) The car was awful at low speeds and when accelerating juddery and seemed like it was struggling. There were no noises, no clanging or crunching etc however there is a sort of whirring/droning/spinning that increases with acceleration and isn't there at idle or low revs, if you accelerate very slowly it's OK. Gear changes were fine and when cruising in 6th it was slightly noticeable but pretty much gone.
I followed some Internet advice and reversed, went through the gears, locked and unlocked the car which reset the light (probs what the seller did before I arrived..) bizarrely this has partly resolved the issue and whist it is still there it is much better but definitely not right.
If you have read this far thankyou! Any advice will be gratefully appreciated.
Mike
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26th Jun 2022 4:58 pm
nigethecat
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Could be turbo actuator rod sticking giving rise to the sluggish acceleration and potentially an issue with the diff giving the droning noise, but as Gary said, get the codes read and would be a good starting point. Do you have a local LR independent who you could get to give the car a once over and point you in the right direction?I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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26th Jun 2022 5:09 pm
Mikec1977
Member Since: 26 Jun 2022
Location: Mansfield Woodhouse
Posts: 6
gstuart wrote:
Hi
Welcome to the asylum
Personally would first ensure the battery is ok, with the engine off should be a min of 12.6 Vdc , ensure ur rear brake lights are all working correctly
Then get it plugged into diagnostics , due to the complexity of these vehicles it’s advantageous to have ur own code reader , plus a basic multimeter , there are a couple of scanners which many of us use
An Autel AP200 there are different colours , white one is the best one to get , there very basic but for around £50 are extremely handy to have in ur glove box
For a more detailed in depth scanner there’s the gap iid, alas there around £420 but will do virtually everything that ur need out of a scanner
Like all faults please always begin with the basics otherwise ur start chasing ur tail and not getting anywhere
Lastly hope u don’t mind me adding but have u ensured the timing belts, oil pump etc have been replaced
Hope that helps a little
Thanks for the reply!
Belts are listed in the service history however nothing re oil pump. She appears to have been well maintained up until the previous owner who had her for a year or so.
I've tried scanning but is showing no codes at all - not sure if that's a good or bad thing in diagnosing the fault lol.
Frustrating that I don't want to drive until something breaks but nor do I have the budget to keep trying things to rectify.
26th Jun 2022 8:20 pm
Mikec1977
Member Since: 26 Jun 2022
Location: Mansfield Woodhouse
Posts: 6
Re: New owner since yesterday already needs help 😅 juddery D3
Could be the DMF.[/quote]
I hope not 😅
26th Jun 2022 8:22 pm
Mikec1977
Member Since: 26 Jun 2022
Location: Mansfield Woodhouse
Posts: 6
nigethecat wrote:
Could be turbo actuator rod sticking giving rise to the sluggish acceleration and potentially an issue with the diff giving the droning noise, but as Gary said, get the codes read and would be a good starting point. Do you have a local LR independent who you could get to give the car a once over and point you in the right direction?
I think this may be the route I'll have to go down, just looking to see who's around Mansfield way.
26th Jun 2022 8:24 pm
darrind
Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: In A World of My Own!
Posts: 2871
Scanning codes
If you don’t have a decent scanner you might struggle to get any meaningful information the IID from GAP is about the best for ease of use but not cheap. They fetch their money with what you can do on the car with them and normally make around the same money back when you sell them again though so are a good investmentMust stop buying shiny toys....
26th Jun 2022 8:56 pm
Oswiperus D3 Decade
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Do you still have the amber park brake fault light on?
If you do, is the gear selection display on the dash still showing? If it isn't showing the gear selected and the reversing lights and parking sensors have also stopped working then the XY sensor on the gearbox needs recalibrating. However this problem is usually caused by the clutch slipping.Stu
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26th Jun 2022 8:56 pm
Pete K
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Don't flick the park brake on. This can cause an amber light. Pull and hold for a for 2 seconds
26th Jun 2022 9:03 pm
raincloud
Member Since: 16 Aug 2011
Location: nottinghamshire
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Mikec1977 wrote:
nigethecat wrote:
Could be turbo actuator rod sticking giving rise to the sluggish acceleration and potentially an issue with the diff giving the droning noise, but as Gary said, get the codes read and would be a good starting point. Do you have a local LR independent who you could get to give the car a once over and point you in the right direction?
I think this may be the route I'll have to go down, just looking to see who's around Mansfield way.
LRS on Oxton roundabout seem pretty good in my experience
26th Jun 2022 11:15 pm
darrind
Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
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IID
Hi
I’m driving from Lincoln to Sheffield later and will have my IID in the car if you want to meet me on the way up I will be going up the A57 A1 M18
Need to be in Sheffield at 10.00pm but can meet you on the way if you want the codes read with an IID - no chargeMust stop buying shiny toys....
27th Jun 2022 11:05 am
riverblanche
Member Since: 31 Aug 2010
Location: retford'ish
Posts: 2220
Hi,
I will send you a PM with a garage in Mansfield, I dont know them but another member passed me their details and he has used them, Rogb
may be worth contacting them if you have not already met up with Darrind
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Not sure if you saw my last message in time Mike but I will be taking my son back to Sheffield probably tomorrow so if you still need a bit of help just PM me as it’s a 2 minute job to get the codes and error info and email over to you with an IIDMust stop buying shiny toys....
28th Jun 2022 3:33 pm
Mikec1977
Member Since: 26 Jun 2022
Location: Mansfield Woodhouse
Posts: 6
Hi all, bit of an update. I took the disco to a specialist who has had it for 2 weeks and diagnosed a handbrake fault and in tank fuel pump failure and new fuel filter.
They are now saying that it hasn't cured the issue and that they need to do further investigation - does anyone know where I stand on this?
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