Member Since: 08 Sep 2014
Location: hull
Posts: 43
Glycol in the transmission
So I have been doing some investigation on a noise I have at about 40 mph and also at about 110.
I have done a triple flush on the box and the old fluid was black. (Oh dear).
Now after the flush it improved it but it came back. I have been thinking tourqe convertor!! But came across this.
http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/use...Manual.pdf
which Indicates the noise I am having is due to glycol contamination.
Would this make the oil go black?
The specialist I use for auto repairs recons the fluid should be a straw colour and not black, but I know of some early boxes having red Atf which does darken over time?.
Now the question is, new radiator and a mega flush circa £400 and a little work. Noise still there due to damaged torque convertor. Start again.
Or new radiator, re-con torque convertor, sump and 10lites of oil £750 and 10 hours work over Easter Weekend, sweating, chaffing knuckles, finding more jobs, brake pipes etc.... Getting of.
Any recomendations on the best route from some one in the know or one of the site sponsors who deals with these repairs more regularly
Thanks
24th Feb 2015 7:22 pm
geoff.
Member Since: 24 Jan 2010
Location: West kent
Posts: 8531
have you had a glycol test
24th Feb 2015 7:28 pm
Robbie
Member Since: 05 Feb 2006
Location: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posts: 17932
I'm glad you found the guide in my gallery useful but as it states the only way to identify glycol contamination is via a glycol test.
There was a raft of glycol issues posted on here a number of years ago but I have not heard of one for years. I know Geoff has the ability to test for this and that he has done so many times over but I am not sure if he has had any glycol-positive results - it is rare.
Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
Member Since: 08 Sep 2014
Location: hull
Posts: 43
I haven't done a definitive test yest, I am considering the blotting paper test or sending some off for testing.
I was hoping people may of had similar issues and be able to advise on the best route for repair.
Although i have this noise I have no judder so it may be fluid issue. Once the torque convertor locks it make no noise unless put under increased load going up a hill. I'm all set to replace the convertor over Easter, but after reading the guide I thought I would seek some further advice before completing the repair as initially I was not planning to replace the radiator. I was just replacing the convertor due to the noise. I obviously don't want a repeat failure due to contamination, and if at all possible don't want to replace it when a mega flush may fix the problem long term.
24th Feb 2015 7:50 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
I think Ive got some oil test papers at work, pm me your address and if I can find them I will post a couple to you.
Have you thought of a remote cooler and a flush?
Mercs early 2000yr models suffered badly from this same fault.
24th Feb 2015 7:53 pm
geoff.
Member Since: 24 Jan 2010
Location: West kent
Posts: 8531
20 odd tests and no positive results it is a rare occurrence now
it would probably help if we knew your year and milage of the veh
24th Feb 2015 7:55 pm
rich_sargie
Member Since: 08 Sep 2014
Location: hull
Posts: 43
Sorry it's a Rrs 06 56 just ticked 90k
24th Feb 2015 7:57 pm
rich_sargie
Member Since: 08 Sep 2014
Location: hull
Posts: 43
lynalldiscovery wrote:
I think Ive got some oil test papers at work, pm me your address and if I can find them I will post a couple to you.
Have you thought of a remote cooler and a flush?
Mercs early 2000yr models suffered badly from this same fault.
Thanks that's a very kind offer.
Having already done a flush ( drain and refill x3) and the problem returning it's now time for a more permanent cure.
And from what I can see the radiator is not to exspensive and a separate cooler would be a custom install
24th Feb 2015 8:36 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73066
Daft question but what was the mileage when the triple flush was done?
24th Feb 2015 8:42 pm
Barn1e D3 Decade
Member Since: 28 Aug 2006
Location: Mid-sussex
Posts: 2021
At 90k I started having TC problems. Had a glycol test that was positive, so ended up installing a separate ATF cooler, leaving the OEM one in place but bypassed. The damage to the friction plates by water in the ATF was halted by Dr Tranny for about a year, but in the end a new TC was required.2005, TDV6 S, Auto, 190k miles, owned from new, V8 Brake Upgrade, Nancom Evo, RLD protector, BAS EGR blanking & Remap, separate ATF cooler, changing all the fluids ahead of time.
24th Feb 2015 9:19 pm
rich_sargie
Member Since: 08 Sep 2014
Location: hull
Posts: 43
What symptoms where you getting?
And how did the box fair up after the glycol incident? Has that required an overhaul as there is friction plates in the box as well as the tc?
24th Feb 2015 9:23 pm
rich_sargie
Member Since: 08 Sep 2014
Location: hull
Posts: 43
DSL wrote:
Daft question but what was the mileage when the triple flush was done?
Poss 4-5k ago
24th Feb 2015 9:24 pm
Barn1e D3 Decade
Member Since: 28 Aug 2006
Location: Mid-sussex
Posts: 2021
I have now done 40k miles with the new TC and same autobox. Changes as good now as it did before. My view is that I changed the fluid and then replaced the TC before any real harm was done. I will get the ATF flushed in about another 20k miles.2005, TDV6 S, Auto, 190k miles, owned from new, V8 Brake Upgrade, Nancom Evo, RLD protector, BAS EGR blanking & Remap, separate ATF cooler, changing all the fluids ahead of time.
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
of.
