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MattJ85
 


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Big engine problems ???

Hi all,

I thought I was experiencing the EGR valves problem as when I connected my ECU reader I got the following error:
P045D - Exhaust Gas Recirculation B Control Circuit High

However when the garage called they said they had also pulled off of the ECU the following faults
P0196 - Engine oil temp sensor circuit range
P045D - Exhaust gas recirculation B control circuit
P0199 - Engine oil temp sensor circuit intermittent
P023D - Manifold absolute pressure - turbocharger/supercharger boost sensor
P132B - Turbo/supercharger Boost control A performance

When they have looked into the graphs for the two EGR valves Bank 0 the highest reading is 39% and Bank 1 the highest reading is 19% - so a large difference between the two sides of the car.

Upon reading here and following from what the garage have said is two new turbos and two new EGR valves and then there could be additional stuff wrong as well.
The price they have quoted is about £4500-5000 as the body needs to come off of the chassis to enable them to get to the engine

Any body got any advice??

When I purchased the car it had full dealer service history, the MOT was clear and the emissions were good and I had a full service and CAM belt done on the car, so I am guessing unfortunately I bought a lemon???
  
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Upon reading here and following from what the garage have said is two new turbos and two new EGR valves and then there could be additional stuff wrong as well.

are they replacing the same Turbo twice then........?

I would be looking to change the garage if they don't know how many turbos the D3 has.....
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2 new turbos Confused

On a D3?
  
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jelly
 


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I'd go for blank egrs and give the turbo actuator a good waggling http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic103926.html
http://www.disco3.co.uk/wiki/P023D oh and sack the mechanic Whistle
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Lost for Words
 


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I'd say:

New engine oil temp sensor.
Blank (with emulators) or replace EGR valves.
Lubricate turbo actuator.

Then go from there. Thumbs Up
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Post #143227024th Feb 2015 10:19 am
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maplecottage
 


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Re: Big engine problems ???

MattJ85 wrote:
........... so I am guessing unfortunately I bought a lemon???


I think the only lemon here is likely to be the dealer Whistle
  
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Posted twice - how did that happen?

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Quote:
the body needs to come off


Others would know better - but is this really necessary to change the turbo and EGR valves - or is it less expensive than doing all three with the body in place.

If you are removing the body there are a number of other jobs recommended to be done whilst acces is easy - search the forum for these.

When did you by the car & from whom?

You might be in a position to reject (but quick action may be required), or get the vendor to do the repairs.

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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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Lost for Words
 


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The body doesn't need to come off for either - certainly not for EGR valves.

For someone experienced in taking the body off, it is often quicker and easier to replace the turbo that way though. Thumbs Up
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
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Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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allyv
 


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turbo is not body off job can be done in situ about 5 hr??
  
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And change oil pump at the same time. Thumbs Up
  
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Lost for Words
 


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Lets wait and see if the turbo does indeed need replacing though. Wink
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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DSL
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I was just bucking the trend and adding stuff. Snigger
  
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Lost for Words
 


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Not referring specifically to your post anyway, Del. Thumbs Up
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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