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according to the article it hit the land rover discovery at over 124mph 200kph.
give you some idea how strong the Disco is.
16th Jan 2015 12:07 pm
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
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I remember that thread...I may never forget it,truly horrific
But I'm with Clarkson and others who have voiced the same view on here,above and previously.....its not PC to voice it,but it's my family I care about,and their safety comes above other peoples families....sorry if that offends,but it's the truth and is one of the main reasons I have a Discovery....I understand people say "what about the other car"?....well,they also had a choice of what vehicle they drive......as I said,not PC to think like that apparently,but my family comes first"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
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D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
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Completely agree Euan. Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off )
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16th Jan 2015 12:29 pm
nigel207
Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
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Plus me Euan!
After spending many years as a Police collision investigator (and prior to that on Traffic), as you can imagine, I've seen lots of sights. But, 99.999999% of collisions are totally avoidable in the first place. The example we're using here no doubt backs that up. Any idiot can drive fast (in this case 200 kph!), but look what happens when things go wrong!
Again, not PC, but I couldn't care less about those who want to do stupid things, but I do so very much about my family. Those who think that they're good drivers (and tend to be dangerous as a result) can wrap themselves around trees and lampposts for ever and a day as far as I'm concerned, but it's when they drag poor innocents into the equation that winds me up.
16th Jan 2015 1:23 pm
nigel207
Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 1350
They shouldn't be driving anything, but alas they're allowed to drive anything from a bicycle to an artic, and do so regularly I'm afraid.
16th Jan 2015 3:26 pm
Nodge68
Member Since: 05 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
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I bought my Discovery because I needed safe a 7 seater. I was thinking of getting a D2 due to its simplicity. I looked at D2's D3's and Volvo Xc90's too. After reviewing loads about these vehicles, I finally settled on the D3. It's safety for passengers was the final clincher.
I spent some time working for a main dealer that also did the out of hours police recovery stuff. I saw the aftermath all sorts of accidents. Most of these were caused carelessness or plain stupidity. Just before Christmas I was almost in a head on collision with a small white van 100 yards from my house! I was coming round the final corner before pulling up outside my house. Suddenly around the corner comes this van on my side of the road, overtaking another larger van. Obviously I stand on the brake, pulling the Discovery up very quickly for its size. The van just keeps coming at me, forcing it's way through the tiniest gap, cutting up the larger van in the process. I didn't get hit but, it's nice to know that if I had been going a few mph faster, or my reactions a few milliseconds slower, the Discovery would have kept me safe should a collision occurred. As to the driver of the white van in that situation? He chose to overtake on a blind corner, so chose to accept what could well have happened to him. PC or not, as long as my family and me are safe and I'm not to blame, the other guy is unimportant.Freelander SE 2005 Auto.
D3 TDV6. Gone.
16th Jan 2015 10:59 pm
zig
Member Since: 09 Sep 2005
Location: Scotland
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Back in 2008 I said on this forum that I have read various Transport Research Laboratory (TRL) reports and their analysis, which based on UK national accident statistics, shows that taking everything into account 4x4 pose less of a risk than average, for those in them, those in other vehicles and for pedestrians.
Originally TRL was asked by the Department of Transport to investigate the effect of 4x4s on accident statistics. This was in response to remarks made by anti 4x4 campaigners about the dangers posed 4x4s. However, the TRL report came out with the opposite result.
TRL 663, which has just been issued in 2007, shows that for the group containing 4x4s:
a/ The car occupant fatality rate is 64% lower than average (see note 1).
b/ The car occupant KSI (killed and seriously injured) rate is 54% lower than average (see note 1).
c/ The pedestrian fatality rate is 27% lower than average (see note 2).
d/ The pedestrian KSI injured rate is 38% lower than average (see note 2).
Note:
1. For car occupant data see figure 4.10 titled “Car occupant fatality and KSI rates†page 26.
2. For pedestrian data see Table 4.2 titled Pedestrian fatality and KSI rates and age of car, 2001-05†page 27.
Another TRL report PPR203 see figure 3.5 on page 16 showed that it terms of killing and seriously injuring people in other vehicles 4x4s are not in the highest group, small saloons and medium saloons are worse.
Anyone know how well a D3 will hold up in a rollover? I went through a heavy rollover last year in an 80 series Landcruiser so roof strength is one thing I'm very interested in for any 4wd
17th Jan 2015 11:27 am
D4mation
Member Since: 29 Jul 2011
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My understanding of the South African collision was that the oncoming Audi was travelling sideways when it impacted the Disco, hence the LR winch wrapped up in the Audi gearstick.
This is a fairly old video clip which you've probably seen before but it shows how newer car crash technology can stand up to a mobile pile of girders slamming into the front of your car.
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shanegtr wrote:
Anyone know how well a D3 will hold up in a rollover? I went through a heavy rollover last year in an 80 series Landcruiser so roof strength is one thing I'm very interested in for any 4wd
Not many examples of rolled D3's or 4's on here tbh ...but they will go if you catch them right or try hard enough. The pillars are strengthened with boron steel which helps but there are a lot of variables in a rollover tbh. If I'm going to be in a rollover then I'd be quite hapy to be in my D4 at the time
Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
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When i bought mine, safety was a concern.
I had 3 non fault smashes in my 2 FL1's. One was written off after being rear ended by a lorry and shoved into a focus. Nothing like seeing your rear view mirror fill with white cab and having nothing you can do about it.
I bought the D3 as i've always wanted a Disco.
It's proved to be an excellent car for both work and play.
That G4 vs Audi smash is chilling though!
That poor family having to go through that. The D3 held up superbly considering the speed and energy that would have been involved. The passenger compartment has stood up very well.
If the worst comes to it, i expect my D3 to give it's life to protect me and anyone else in the car.
Anyone know how well a D3 will hold up in a rollover? I went through a heavy rollover last year in an 80 series Landcruiser so roof strength is one thing I'm very interested in for any 4wd
Not many examples of rolled D3's or 4's on here tbh ...but they will go if you catch them right or try hard enough. The pillars are strengthened with boron steel which helps but there are a lot of variables in a rollover tbh. If I'm going to be in a rollover then I'd be quite hapy to be in my D4 at the time
With our crash a car with DSC would have saved us from going over - or at least taken some of the severity out of the crash - 4.5 times over from 110km/h. Lucky for us it was straight flat road with nothing to hit apart from the bitumen The cruisers pillars that day where strengthen with my spine, which done a decent job but gave out in the end End of the day my 4 kids got out with nothing more severe than scrapes and bruises but both myself and my wife hospitalized. Most important thing for car safety is still the humble seatbelt!!!! Cant believe there's still people out there who dont wear them
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I am surprised how easily that Discovery rolled in the film clip above. They weren't going that fast! I wonder if the driver took the wrong evasive action with the wheel?
17th Jan 2015 2:07 pm
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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Wouldn't have thought that a mere saloon could've pushed a Disco over, especially at such low speed.
However I reckon it was the Disco drivers natural instinct of trying to take evasive action that conributed to it rolling.
IMO if the Disco driver kept the 'straight ahead' line or even better, turned towards the car, he wouldn't have rolled.
Just my thought!
btw. not very encouraging to see all the bystanders in the background just stood there and not do anything!
17th Jan 2015 2:16 pm
disco5
Member Since: 23 Dec 2012
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Would be in a d3 /d4 any day of the week in any type of crash
Have you seen any of the new rrsports or ffrr in/ after a crash now they are monocoque body.
They don't look good at all in front impacts or side impacts
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The cruisers pillars that day where strengthen with my spine, which done a decent job but gave out in the end 
End of the day my 4 kids got out with nothing more severe than scrapes and bruises but both myself and my wife hospitalized. Most important thing for car safety is still the humble seatbelt!!!! Cant believe there's still people out there who dont wear them
