Chris532
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Northeast
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So here goes..
Winter is here and this morining -4 car wont start.. I havent yet figured out if the glow plugs are working properly but if there not i dont fancy paying the masive bill to replace them anyway.
All apears fine with the glow plug light and it stays on for 5 seconds then goes out, i even do it five or more times but still no joy.
So my mext step is to see if i can get the FBH working so i can buy a bell remote and fit that. At present i cant get the FBH to fire up. I have tried the normal way by starting the engine with it below 4 deg and the thing aint working.
Next i tried rigging it direct to my computer with the free webasto software still notihng no reposne.
My last attempt before i rip it out and bin it is trying to start it thorugh my SDD software and if this is possible can someone point me to a step by step... 
I should mention that i have the early D3 with the red wire. I also inadvertintly flashed mt dash back to a firmawre that still has the pre heat setting so it can be set on a timer to start.. Is this also a good or bad thing ? 
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 7th Dec 2014 10:00 pm |
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Simonstarski
Member Since: 24 Jun 2012
Location: Cornwall
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Have you got plenty of fuel in the car? As I understand it they don't kick in unless you have more than quater a tank.? Narpy Grill, tinted windows, Smooth leather wheel (TLO Group buy), ACM fitted (thanks TLO), Rear door loom and Row 2 & 3 audio switch upgrade, RRS 20" wheel change, 285 Cooper LTZ's Sat Nav Mod (until I get a Faultmate upgrade), Front & Rear lamp guards. 4x4 screen now switched on - Woody32, Follow me home reverse lights - woody32, Auto release EPB - Woody32. Off Road Navigation - Woody32. Remap + EGR's switched off. Full chassis clean and Waxoyl.
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| 7th Dec 2014 10:09 pm |
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Chris532
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Northeast
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Hi guys,
Yes i have tried the fuse out trick and also have a full to the brim tank. I have found the Auxilery heater priming routine option in the SDD software and i have gave that a run ill have to wait intill its below 4 deg to see if that has had any joy
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| 7th Dec 2014 10:13 pm |
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DN
D3 Decade
Member Since: 24 Jun 2006
Location: W.London.
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Mine refused to start a couple of years back, but I found clearing the lock out fault code got it working again, and it has been very reliable up until recently both with BAS controller and without. I found the deal from Duckworths for a new FBH for £150 delivered,too reasonable to ignore, but refuse to fit it until original FBH is well and truly non operational 
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| 7th Dec 2014 10:30 pm |
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Chris532
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Northeast
Posts: 111
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At leas a new one is not to bad price wise.. I cant even get a response from the thing at all, even when tryin to connect directly to it the Webasto program just says not connected even though it is with all of the ports correct and also the wires checked a million times. Its got me going round and round.. I think it maybe just completley 
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| 7th Dec 2014 10:38 pm |
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mark the spark
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: southampton
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Chris i had similar 2 weeks back the BAS unit is intelligent so fault clears pre re start so should sort any fault codes .keep trying mine took 3,days before she would hold a flame once its done it run it as long as possible ie dont start the car and let the auto start logic. Shut it down it not below -6
Leave it a couple days as you may have residue fuel "flooding" the chamber
I jumped in too quick and bought a new FBH from duckworth but its now still in the box as mines running every time now be patient MY05 SE D3 Manual my first LR what a car
MY10 HSE D4 auto
MY14 XXV more buttons than the spaceshuttle
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| 7th Dec 2014 10:40 pm |
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DN
D3 Decade
Member Since: 24 Jun 2006
Location: W.London.
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Just so you are aware, that price is a one off from Duckworths, (if they indeed have any left). They are normally approx 4 times that price from what I have heard.
You could do as Mark suggests above, but you would obviously have to buy and fit the FBHIC first.  ........whether you want to do that? I don't know.
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| 7th Dec 2014 10:46 pm |
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Chris532
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Northeast
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Thanks for all the input guys.. Ill definitely play around with it for a good a few more days before i look into replacing it. At the moment i can't get it to show any signs of life at all not even so much as a clicking or response from any form of software talking to it.
It has a power going to it ill and i did manage to run the SDD program in it so ill give it a try in the morning when its cold enough and see of she fires up 
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| 7th Dec 2014 10:57 pm |
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DiscoJake
Member Since: 23 Aug 2013
Location: Hereford
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Have a look at the webasto manual on this thread thanks to Robbie 
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/post1381609.html#1381609
Specifically tells you how to reset the FBH (there is more to it than just removing fuse once )
Also check drivers are ok for obdII cable to get WTT to run
and/or try pin 4 rather than pin 5 for the negative supply to obd cable 
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| 7th Dec 2014 11:16 pm |
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Chris532
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Northeast
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Thanks that manual is great it will take me a while to get through it but it looks like it will help allot.
As for the drives ill try a few more as i can get windows to work with the one i have but I'm not 100% sure its correct but ill get there in the end
The pins, I've tried every combination possible still to no avail 
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| 7th Dec 2014 11:30 pm |
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Farsco
Member Since: 07 Sep 2013
Location: Douglas
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I assume you are using an obd2 to USB adapter and then going onto the necessary pins. If so, are you getting a flashing light on the obd2 part showing it is powered up? Strange you can't get a connection?
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| 8th Dec 2014 12:25 am |
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eenomc
Member Since: 07 Oct 2013
Location: Moray
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The only sure way I can get my usb/obd connector to start communicating is to connect all the wires, start communication on WTT software, unplug the (think) 8 pin plug from the webasto and then reinsert. The WTT software then starts its interaction.
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| 8th Dec 2014 2:47 am |
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Farsco
Member Since: 07 Sep 2013
Location: Douglas
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The red wire needs to go onto pin 7 (K line)
Useful pictures here
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic85217.html
Try connecting up the obd2 bits first then plug the usb into the computer. That way, the obd2 is powered up first. Don't forget to let the car go to sleep first. I take it you have power to the fbh itself and no dodgy fuse issue?
Have you read the IanNP stuff. http://disco3.co.uk/forum/post616222.html#616222
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| 8th Dec 2014 8:46 am |
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mark the spark
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: southampton
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chris
use some freeze spray on the outside temp sensor or remove it and chuck it in the freezer for 20 mins
this should shorten the time to diagnose
i think robbie posted location info before ,from memory i think he said its mounted behind the front grill
but do a search im sure you will find it MY05 SE D3 Manual my first LR what a car
MY10 HSE D4 auto
MY14 XXV more buttons than the spaceshuttle
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| 8th Dec 2014 10:02 am |
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