Member Since: 29 Jul 2011
Location: Ruralshire
Posts: 593
It's the vehicle's plated gross train weight that dictates the speed limit. Even if you are towing a Tesco trolley with a D3/D4 you are limited to 90 kph.
I normally keep up with the HGVs - any faster and you start to chew too much fuel.MY12 D4 HSE Ipanema Sand
28th Jan 2015 11:56 pm
fisherman
Member Since: 16 Jan 2007
Location: Hornchurch Essex
Posts: 1789
I just had an email from the Caravan Club offering a deal on the Liber-T transponder so thought I'd have another look. The first thing I saw was they don't apply to vehicles with a GVW of 3500kg or more. When I paid manually last year, apart from being able to grope the wife as she paid the toll, the auto tolls saw my set up as a class 2 (ie under 3500kg) and not a class 4 (over 3500kg). I assume the Liber-T system has no way of checking? How would you wriggle out of that one if stopped with a transponder on a 4300kg rig? FFRR 2017 4.4SDV8 Autobiography. Cost so much I must be mad!
D4 HSE 2012 Like a second wife, more expensive but goes better! I almost cried this time!
D3 HSE 2006 (Almost 8 years together, true love)
Land Cruiser VX 1994 11 years together, wife cried when I p/ex'd for my D3
29th Jan 2015 1:25 pm
wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1967
I checked my liber-t (APRR) invoice for last summer. Travelling with D3 and tintent, always invoiced as class2. Usually took the HGV lanes.
It is scary to drive through with 20 kph but it works a treat!
WiljoD3 V8 HSE Auto in Zermatt silver - driveway version gone but not forgotten, only the living room cupboard version remains
D4 + caravan is from my understanding is class 2 as the GVW of the Discovery is under 3500kgs - the weight of the caravan doesn't seem relevantD4 2010 HSE Santorini Black
D3 2005 SE Java Black - p/x to D4
D2 2001 GS - p/x to D3
D1 1998 - p/x to D2
29th Jan 2015 7:23 pm
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
Yep - just logged on to my APRR.FR and I was charged 1.4 euro for the active month (not charged at all rest of year just the month you use it)
Then charges were as Class 2 - so EUR39.20 From Calais to West Coast of Brittany.MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
Prospeed rock/tree sliders w/steps
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4th Feb 2015 4:45 pm
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
This deal:
Free application - no fee (save €10)
€6** annual fee for the first year of subscription, discounted to €3** from the second year onwards
€20 refundable security deposit on the tag
€5** active usage fee - only for the months in which the tag is used and capped at €10 in any subscription year
From Eurotunnel compares to APRR.FR:
Application €10
No sure on the refundable deposit, can't remember even paying for one and my bills only show the EUR10
No annual fee
€1.4EUR active usage fee paid on the months you use it
It's exactly the same Liber-T tag and just as valid anywhere.
I have it linked to a credit card and the bills are online and easy to accessMY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
Prospeed rock/tree sliders w/steps
HSE Winter wheels
TransK9 B24
Travall Cargo Guard
Hatchbag
4th Feb 2015 4:55 pm
fisherman
Member Since: 16 Jan 2007
Location: Hornchurch Essex
Posts: 1789
I applied as per Dubbs instruction, very easy and I now have a transponder winging it's way to me at a cost of €11 joining fee plus €10 postage. I then pay €1.70 for each month used, no yearly fee mentioned at all and the monthly for a third of the UK websites cost.
Nice one Dubbs for your knowledge of all things French and pointing me this way. FFRR 2017 4.4SDV8 Autobiography. Cost so much I must be mad!
D4 HSE 2012 Like a second wife, more expensive but goes better! I almost cried this time!
D3 HSE 2006 (Almost 8 years together, true love)
Land Cruiser VX 1994 11 years together, wife cried when I p/ex'd for my D3
5th Feb 2015 9:02 am
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
Glad it helped.
Can't take credit though as someone else on here pointed me at APRR.FR last year when I was looking at the rip-off saneftolling.co.uk
I say rip off but if you don't mind the extra cost and exchange rate they apply to charge you in £ then it's a more convenient option (for those not prepared to muddle through the language barrier)
Which remind me, I must start up duo lingo training again!! MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
Prospeed rock/tree sliders w/steps
HSE Winter wheels
TransK9 B24
Travall Cargo Guard
Hatchbag
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Nice one Dubbs for your knowledge of all things French and pointing me this way. 
