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Reclaim RUPs - epetition reply 7 March 2007
Just found this in my inbox
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ReclaimRUPs - epetition reply7 March 2007
We received a petition asking:
"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to re-open the greenlanes and public byways that have lost vechicular access under the NERC bill."
Details of petition:
"The NERC Bill gained Royal Assent on 30/3/06, and is now the Natural Environment & Rural Communities Act 2006. Under NERC we have lost the rights to drive along thousands of miles of public rights of way. We the undersigned beleve this to be descrimitory towards motor vechicle users in our free access to these byways."
Read the Government's response:
The Natural Environment and Rural Communities Act 2006 does not, as has been suggested, represent the end of the road for recreational users of motorised vehicles on rights of way. The intention of the Act is to restrict the recording of additional byways on the definitive map and statement, on the basis of historical horse and cart use (or dedication for such use). Existing byways open to all traffic, which extend to around 4,500km in England and Wales - roughly 2% of the rights of way network - will not be affected in any way.
At one time, there appeared to be the prospect of deferring commencement of the new legislation on this basis, but the strength of feeling - across all parties - for early commencement was overwhelming and it became very clear, as the Bill progressed, that Parliament was unconvinced that a voluntary approach would work.
The Government firmly believes that the way forward on this issue is through a mixture of legislation, better guidance and co-operation between users. With this in mind we have also published new guidance to promote the better enforcement of existing powers to manage vehicles on rights of way and an update to our practical guide to managing un-surfaced vehicular routes: Making the Best of Byways. Defra has also published online guidance on the rights of way provisions in the Natural Environment and Rural Communities Act. This can be accessed at the following address: http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-countryside/cl/nerc06.htm
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Me too, will wait on a dull moment to read it!
7th Mar 2007 8:32 pm
DaveT
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And me!
Strikes me that they've avoided the issue, since the petition was against the loss of "greenlanes" and "public byways" rather than RUPPs
Looks like another petition is needed
I would volunteer, but I'm not a wordsworth either, nor do I know how to set one up.Long succession of Disco's since 2001...
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7th Mar 2007 11:38 pm
simon
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They seem to be using the 'only 2%' argument like we do... but in reverse.
"But you have 4,500KM to drive on whats yer issue"
and we say...
"we only have 2% of all byways to drive on, leave us alone and please don't close anymore"
Words are is as pliable and statistics are.
7th Mar 2007 11:42 pm
SN
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just noticed I got one of these emails too!
Thats two personal emails from Tony Bliar in the last few days...
...what is the world coming to?Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
8th Mar 2007 12:02 am
10forcash
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Notice the change to km - it sounds better than 3150 MILES - most of which (like cycle lanes) are only a few hundred yard / metres in length....
Local councils are also encouraged to use TRO's to 'preserve' the lanes, instead of maintaining them
8th Mar 2007 12:10 am
simon
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don't tell me you actually think 'he' writes them ?
8th Mar 2007 12:11 am
SN
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I'm not THAT stupid!
KM's instead of Miles? Nothing to do with making it look like more.... creeping metrication again! Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
8th Mar 2007 12:15 am
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simon wrote:
don't tell me you actually think 'he' writes them ?
He does to me 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
8th Mar 2007 12:16 am
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yer, but you suck his cock!
8th Mar 2007 12:17 am
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only on Thursdays
Oh by the way ....apparently you have to address me as Lord DG from now on 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
8th Mar 2007 12:19 am
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OK..... Lord dick, next time you are 'down there' can you see if there are any gonads? 'cos I suspect they are severely lacking and you are in fact the surrogate father of Cruella de Ville's Cherie's offspring
The clue is in the mono-brow's
8th Mar 2007 12:23 am
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I don't have a mono brow. ...and yeh ...Cheries great ...when she takes her teeth out 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
8th Mar 2007 12:26 am
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dickgriff wrote:
I don't have a mono brow.
got yer eleccy shaver fixed then?
8th Mar 2007 12:28 am
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