Member Since: 13 Sep 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 586
Great idea M3DPO - I think I will give that one a go.
Has anyone powered the camera off of the parking sensors? That way they will come on when you select reverse, and not go off as soon as you select drive again. That might help if you had to move back and forth etc.
I was also hoping to be able to be able to put a switch in to allow me have the camera on when I wasn't in reverse - in case I wanted to constantly see behind me when towing for example. Any ideas on this?
11th Apr 2013 3:13 pm
wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1967
I've got it set up that way, using a GVIF.
I'll look up my design and post the wiring this evening.
Regards,
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11th Apr 2013 4:00 pm
wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1967
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11th Apr 2013 4:23 pm
Andy Foster
Member Since: 27 Dec 2009
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 6551
Re: Camera(s)
M3DPO wrote:
mjom89 wrote:
Is it possible for me to put a switch in a video cable?
Any thoughts?
Matthew
The possibility of a different approach to the problem, connect the cameras up with a 'Y' splitter on the ariel input and put a switch on the power feed to the cameras so that only one camera can be switched on by choice. Test it on a model set up before installing.
Like the sound of this method. Would one of these do the job to switch between two cameras.
Member Since: 18 Jul 2011
Location: Stockport
Posts: 7830
Those links you've posted Andy may all come in handy and should be fine, but regarding the AV lead, make sure you've got the right female/male ends. It can get confusing.
Also, regarding putting a switch in a power lead, this'll only work if the camera is usually not powered. If you're running a forward facing recording camera for example, you'll need the switch to be in the AV line otherwise you'll be turning the power off to the camera when you really want it constantly live.
I'm going down the AV switcher route and going to see if I can build it in somewhere but still have it removable.Mods:
Front Fogs + Halos
FBH Remote Control
The 1st Ever RRS Modded Grill
Garmin Nuvi + D4 Surround + Reversing Camera.
D4 Steering Wheel.
Rear Boot Spoiler.
Twin Brake Lights.
Wing Mirror Indicator Repeaters.
Long Roof Rails
Make your own Narpy grill thread
I'm not scared, I'm outta here.
12th Apr 2013 10:31 am
Andy Foster
Member Since: 27 Dec 2009
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 6551
I think the AV splitter will be the route I take eventually as it is more of a plug and play from what I've seen. But whatever way you go jus need to have it all fitted nice and neat.
Was only going to fit 2 rear mounted cameras. One in the tailgate handle and one behind the towing electrics cover that I will only use when hitching the caravan up.
So thinking about it could put the unit in one of the glove boxes as its not like I will be switching between the 2 that often. Keep us posted on how you get on Narpy.
Thanks for the info so far
Andy
12th Apr 2013 12:35 pm
Trigger4558
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Location: Abingdon
Posts: 59
12th Apr 2013 12:41 pm
Narpy
Member Since: 18 Jul 2011
Location: Stockport
Posts: 7830
I've currently got it slaved in place in the lower glove box:
That's a bit rough and ready but it does work superbly. I can select between forward facing recording camera, and sat nav with reverse camera ( which powers up when I select reverse ). It really does work very well. The good news however, is the selector switch box is held together with 4 screws so can be ripped apart easily and only contains a selector switch directly wired to the relevant ports.
I've had all the centre console out today inclu the ashtray and the two 12v sockets and had a good look around and to be honest, I couldn't find a suitable location for integrating the selector that wouldn't involve drastic changes. That was until I realised this is a prime candidate:
There's just enough room under that blanking plate to incorporate the selector switch. The selector looks like this with the knob removed:
and is then just wired to each of the AV ports. I reckon I can fix the switch to the blanking plate and hide everything inside the centre console. Hopefully will look like this when complete:
Pretty neat eh?Mods:
Front Fogs + Halos
FBH Remote Control
The 1st Ever RRS Modded Grill
Garmin Nuvi + D4 Surround + Reversing Camera.
D4 Steering Wheel.
Rear Boot Spoiler.
Twin Brake Lights.
Wing Mirror Indicator Repeaters.
Long Roof Rails
Make your own Narpy grill thread
I'm not scared, I'm outta here.
12th Apr 2013 4:52 pm
wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1967
There is room in the front of the centre cubby. Those forward-sticking parts are hollow. So if you need to hide some equipment, you can do it there.
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12th Apr 2013 7:09 pm
mjom89
Member Since: 13 Sep 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 586
Thanks for the diagram wvlenthe - that's makes sense.
Has anyone managed to take a feed from the rear Parking sensors?
12th Apr 2013 8:10 pm
Tufty
Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 480
Wvlenthe
How do you get on with your caravan receiver? We were discussing them a while back in a different thread and the general opinion seemed not very good. How far apart are your transmitter and receiver when hitched up? Where did it come from?
Cheers
Narpy
At the end or the day your switch is a low loss selector switch with 3 (possibly 6) gangs, for a camera you only need 1 or 2 gangs (depending if you bother switching the signal ground, which you probably don't need to do) as there is no need for sound.
I'd imagine any decent 2 way switch would do the job?
12th Apr 2013 8:20 pm
Narpy
Member Since: 18 Jul 2011
Location: Stockport
Posts: 7830
You're right of course Tufty but I think it's also all about doing a clean, plug+play install and the E-Bay sourced selector allows this. It also means you're not soldering cables and switches, which is fine if you're comfortable with that, but most want an easy, straight forward mod. Mods:
Front Fogs + Halos
FBH Remote Control
The 1st Ever RRS Modded Grill
Garmin Nuvi + D4 Surround + Reversing Camera.
D4 Steering Wheel.
Rear Boot Spoiler.
Twin Brake Lights.
Wing Mirror Indicator Repeaters.
Long Roof Rails
Make your own Narpy grill thread
I'm not scared, I'm outta here.
13th Apr 2013 11:31 am
wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1967
Tufty wrote:
Wvlenthe
How do you get on with your caravan receiver? We were discussing them a while back in a different thread and the general opinion seemed not very good. How far apart are your transmitter and receiver when hitched up? Where did it come from?
Cheers
Hi Tufty,
I purchased the whole setup with hids4u.
As Ian warned me about the distance between sender and receiver, I routed a power and video cable to the front of the caravan and sticked the sender in the front part of the caravan where the gas bottles are, high up so it will not get any spray/dirt though the holes there. The whole constructions there is plastic so no signal blocking from metal coverings. I connected the power of the receiver and the camera to the 12v vehicle live so they are both powered when hooked up to the vehicle but not when connected to the 240V system of the camping site.
I put the receiver in the headlining above the upper tail gate, so effectively the sender and receiver are about 2m apart to my estimate. I can switch the receiver on with a switch situated on the front of the centre cubby.
The camera I have on the back of the 'van is of lower image quality than the r/v camera in the tailgate handle with not as wide a viewing angle. It is at the height of the upper brake light, so supposedly about 2m from the ground. The camera can be tilted so I set it in a manner that I can see just a very small strip of the caravan body. As it is mounted high up, I cannot see far behind the caravan. But I intended it to use for maneuvering anyway.
As you can see from the scheme posted above, I have modified the cabling so I can select any camera input when on the move.
When moving, the sender/receiver combination gets some interference from somewhere. It causes the images to flicker a bit. When standing still or driving at very low speed, this interference is absent. I cannot see the cause of this but have not put much effort in finding it either. As I mainly use it for maneuvering, it doesn't disturb me.
If I had to install the whole system again, I would choose a wider angle camera for the 'van which would allow me to view oncoming traffic. And if I would, I would also want to dig into the interference problem because it could get annoying when looking back for traffic.
This is the only thing I would change though, all in all I am very satisfied with the setup and it does exactly what I want it to.
If you need any more info on this, I'll be happy to give it!
Regards,
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14th Apr 2013 10:43 am
iand3
Member Since: 24 Apr 2013
Location: All over
Posts: 130
Forgive me for asking but why on earth do you need two rear camers on the back of the disco? Surely if you mount a single camera in the right place it will do both jobs? Thats what i've done on my last two discoveries and intend to do on thsi one? Messing with video splitters and haveing two cameras looking in the same place sounds crazy to me!
Perhaps its me?
24th May 2013 11:18 am
wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1967
iand3 wrote:
Forgive me for asking but why on earth do you need two rear camers on the back of the disco? Surely if you mount a single camera in the right place it will do both jobs? Thats what i've done on my last two discoveries and intend to do on thsi one? Messing with video splitters and haveing two cameras looking in the same place sounds crazy to me!
Perhaps its me?
The standard reversing camera that clicks into the number plate light will not show the towbar as it is pointed just over that. So in order to use it as a hitch cam, you must estimate where your towbar is. As it is also mounted off-center, you also need to direct the caravan hitch to somewhere near the right hard button under the nav screen. If you do this by use of the camera, you must take the wide-angle fisheye characteristic in account...
All in all, I never get it right and plan to mount an extra camera .
What camera have you used which lets you see both?
Regards,
WiljoD3 V8 HSE Auto in Zermatt silver - driveway version gone but not forgotten, only the living room cupboard version remains
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