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LR Technical Advice
Is there anyway these days to get hold of technical advice from Land Rover these days.
I have tried their customer hlepline but they weren't and told me to p*ss off and stop bothering them. The delaer can't answer the question either, surely they are able to contact Land Rover?
Any help appreciated as my Insurance Company wants the answer
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23rd Jan 2007 6:22 pm
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...in which case, here goes
How do they work out the tyre load rating? what does it actually mean? and what is the significance of it.(is it at all related to the tyre speed rating (i.e. can one drive the other?) or is that an entirely separate stand alone rating)
....in nice simple clear language please as I haven't managed to get a straight answer yet..
Mysterious or what?
...but many thanks none the less for any forthcoming clarity
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23rd Jan 2007 10:37 pm
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The load rating is quite simply the index reference number that equates to a standard load that a tyre must be able to carry. In the case of the D3 it is about 1,000kg per corner, which equates to a rating of ~110.
Insurance companies can take a keen interest in tyres fitted to a vehicle, where tyre failure has, or could have, contributed to an accident - fault or no fault. A tyre, in most cases either a cheap alternative or where a "cool" low profile alternative is fitted, may not be physically and safely able to withstand the weight of the vehicle.
Further, whilst a minor underating of the load factor for on road tyres will probably not cause any problems, take the vehicle off road, and you will put considerable additional load on tyres, which may fail as a result.
23rd Jan 2007 11:16 pm
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Thanks for that winger, all makes sense
but what I am really after is something "authorative" (no offence intended) preferably on "Land Rover headed paper" (or similar) that I can show the insurance company?
I don't really wish to say more on a public forum but it is in support of something.
Cheers
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The required minimum load ratings are shown in the handbook, run with anything lower and your insurance is probably void.The End
24th Jan 2007 10:25 am
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thanks for that Slimer
That is my understanding........however the whole area seems very wishy washy and the insurance company is being very evasive.....as are the dealer.....
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24th Jan 2007 10:38 am
al cope
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I know (from our conversations) what you are talking about Spotter, and the rule of thumb I would apply is this:
When you take out insurance, you are always asked if the vehicle has been modified (ie, not standard), as the insurer is trying to work out his risk. If you have "non-standard" items, especially around performance and/or safety, they may cover you and charge extra. Load rating of tyres, would in my mind constitute a safety issue. Its one of the reasons I didn't go for 20" alloys, as at the time I couldnt find any tyres rated at 111.
I know the RRS runs 106/107 load rated tyres. Is it that much lighter?
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24th Jan 2007 11:10 am
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Thanks Al, yes you know the story, I am trying to put my case together for retcification and I agree entirely with the safety aspects.....it is just getting something written down or a view from technical guys actually from Land Rover as obviously the tyre people distance themselves and refer you back to Land Rover!!
Hopefully i will learn something out of this
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24th Jan 2007 11:28 am
al cope
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Would LRCS not even confirm in writting the same info as is in the handbook, ie, 111 load rating.
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Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
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24th Jan 2007 11:38 am
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What happened to one of our member's RRS tyres offroading in peaks - twice!! Lickily he had 2 spares!
Our local stealer is selling a D3 with RRS HSE rims & tyres (107 rating I think), sales guy not interested when I pointed to them & said that the tyres are not weight rated for a D3.
24th Jan 2007 11:51 am
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Thanks DSL
mind if I show tha photo to my dealer?
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24th Jan 2007 12:11 pm
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al cope wrote:
Would LRCS not even confirm in writting the same info as is in the handbook, ie, 111 load rating.
Al
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24th Jan 2007 12:12 pm
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