Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
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News to me that you can turn it off DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
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 25th Jan 2007 2:10 pm |
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Mole Master
Member Since: 22 Jan 2007
Location: West Glamorgan
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| Preheater constant burn when Below 5'C SAGA. |
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Well, it looks like the saga is now resolved 
Thursday I phoned then drove 60 miles to the dealership I use, they had received new software mid January and would have time to load the new software.
My pre-heater was firing for the whole journey (below 5'C ambient) and my MPG for the trip was 20.
The dealer only loaded software associated with the pre-heater.
The heater was firing as I left the garage but a check a mile or so later revealed it had stopped and the preheater exhaust was cold. If I stopped for a short while it would refire and stop when the engine reheated (ambient still below 5'C).
The reversed identical 60 mile route had given me 28 MPG an 8 MPG improvement.
Sadly still no MANUAL CONTROL though 
Thanks for all your observations and suggestions.
Keep chatting.
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| 26th Jan 2007 1:15 pm |
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DiscoDad
Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Beautiful Teesdale
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So the D3 is more ecomomical in reverse?  Back in the game!
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| 26th Jan 2007 1:22 pm |
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NICKNICK
Member Since: 14 Jul 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 104
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I would say that you should be able claim against LR for lower MPG.
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| 26th Jan 2007 1:45 pm |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
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MM the D3 was never intended to have manual control of the FBH. If you search back you will see we have discussed this issue since day one. We did have a work round, but the enhancement stopped it. Webasto who make the heater have had enough problems, I seem to recall they do now have a solution at a price. DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
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| 26th Jan 2007 1:56 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
Posts: 19689
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Mole Master, are you able to find out the details of the upgrade (TSB number or similar?) I'd be keen to have this done to my 06MY before I collect it on Thursday.
Cheers I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 27th Jan 2007 5:37 pm |
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Matt
Member Since: 15 Jul 2006
Location: Lost in Space
Posts: 456
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Mole Master.
Taking Discovery to Stratstone Cardiff tomorrow will ask about the softwear update for the Fbh ,thanks for the tip .
Matt Discovery 4 SDV6 XS Firenze Red Ebony Leather
Club DuraTrac BLACK POWDER COATED 19 hse wheels
Disco 3 gone but not forgotten
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| 28th Jan 2007 7:26 pm |
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Matt
Member Since: 15 Jul 2006
Location: Lost in Space
Posts: 456
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Droped the Discovery off at Stratstone Cardiff this morning at 9:30.Recieved a phone call at Lunch time to be informed that the Discovery needs a new control module  .Will have the permagrin back tomorrow aftrenoon plus all the new softwear installed.
Matt Discovery 4 SDV6 XS Firenze Red Ebony Leather
Club DuraTrac BLACK POWDER COATED 19 hse wheels
Disco 3 gone but not forgotten
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| 29th Jan 2007 5:41 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
Posts: 19689
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Westover Christchurch have confirmed that this update and all other relevant TSBs have been applied this week as part of the LRA pre-handover checklist. 50 hours and 15 minutes to go to permagrin!!!!  I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 30th Jan 2007 4:15 pm |
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Martin
Site Admin and Owner
Member Since: 06 Nov 2004
Location: Hook Norton
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Pelyma wrote:If you search back you will see we have discussed this issue since day one.
Quite literally, since post number 2 (there were no posts before #26) by Gareth back in Dec '04 - Post #27 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
Any issues with the site let me know!
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| 30th Jan 2007 4:20 pm |
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Matt
Member Since: 15 Jul 2006
Location: Lost in Space
Posts: 456
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Permagrin restored .Picked the Discovery up from Sratstone Cardiff this afternoon ,the new control moduel has totally transformed the Discovery .Will test the Fbh in the morning after knocking off Work at 6am.
Matt Discovery 4 SDV6 XS Firenze Red Ebony Leather
Club DuraTrac BLACK POWDER COATED 19 hse wheels
Disco 3 gone but not forgotten
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| 30th Jan 2007 10:04 pm |
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Ragnvald Svarstad
Member Since: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Lillehammer
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Norway is at times a cold place and I miss my pre-heater as i had it in previous Defenders! Retrofit by importer - on/of switch and timer. Disco is late 2005 and she came with the timer text on the display. This was lost last spring with a program up-date. When winter came I experienced the nasty exhaust fumes smell and the consumption has increased to the degree I believe the Webasto must be running as long as the engine is. There was definatly a change in behaviour with the program update. The heater comes on irrespective of engine temp when starting the engine as long as the outdoor temp is below aprox. 5 C. I,m in for an oil change on Thursday and will raise the matter. Is there a program update after spring 2006?  Tonga Green D3 TDV6 HSE Manual
1951 Series 1 80"
7 Land Rovers since 1971
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| 5th Feb 2007 5:58 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
Posts: 19689
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The recent upgrade will fix it. Mine is a March 06 model and had the software done before I picked it up last week. The software on mine would have been the same as yours, so I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 5th Feb 2007 7:43 pm |
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couplands
Member Since: 26 Oct 2006
Location: Peak District & Cornwall
Posts: 230
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Slightly confused by this update.
Is this something that would need to be done to a MY07 car, or should it be there already. I ask becasue the FBH seems to be on more than it's off on my car.
cheers
simon
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| 5th Feb 2007 8:24 pm |
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