Timos
Member Since: 16 Feb 2011
Location: Greece
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Help, can anyone help i need to change the LOWER FRONT WISHBONE REAR BUSH i have bought the FRONT LOWER one as well both sides.
But now i have look at the job and it is more complicated than i thought as it says i need special tools.
for the height adjust. The others i think i can make to remove and replace?
As anyone done this job can it be done.
Timos
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 1st Aug 2012 6:30 pm |
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Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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No special tools needed bud for the heights once you have replaced the bushes then just nip the bolts and then jack the leg up to set a measurement of 465mm from just under the wheel arch to the center of the drive shaft.
Just make sure you mark up the bolts before you remove them..Also the lower rear bush bolt is the worst one to do as it gets all the weather on it and its normally solid and needs cutting off.
Its easier to change the whole arm complete with bushes and ball joint.
Flack 
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| 1st Aug 2012 8:36 pm |
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Timos
Member Since: 16 Feb 2011
Location: Greece
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Thank you for your reply. i got a Manual on CD it says you have to remove the hub! is it possible to replace the bushes by just dropping the rear? do you foresee any other problems that i can come across.
Thanks again
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| 2nd Aug 2012 5:38 am |
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Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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Unnecessary quote removed
Do you mean just undo and remove both bottom bolts, I suppose you could but you would be pulling the drive shaft out and I would not recommend this way, that's why you need to remove the wheel knuckle so you don't pull the drive shaft fully out. The bushes are not just a push fit they are a very tight fit, if you have some kind of puller to get them in and out you should be ok, but your problem might be getting the top and bottom ball joints out of the wheel knuckle and you might end up cutting the bolts off especially the rear one.
Flack
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| 2nd Aug 2012 8:44 am |
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Timos
Member Since: 16 Feb 2011
Location: Greece
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Thanks again i will order a Ball Joint Separator Lever Type from ebay and was hoping to make a puller to remove the bushes from some piping. once the bushes arrive i can work on that for size.
i didnt want to remove the hub. in case the tracking needed rejusting but i will take your advice and remove the lower arm it will be better that way to remove and fit bushes. Thank you
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| 2nd Aug 2012 11:38 am |
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scotty15
Member Since: 27 May 2012
Location: Alfreton
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I have just changed both my front lower arm rear bushes for poly bushes. The best way to get the old bushes out is to break the metal flange off that is at the rear most part of the bush and arm then you can use a hammer and a drift the inner part of the bush out then just use a hacksaw to cut a slot in the metal outer and job done.
The fisrt arm took 2.5 hrs and the second 1.5 hrs. 06 reg disco 3 HSE MY 06. Sat nav ,fridge, LR phone kit, rear passenger climate,
BAS remap
Wiggs BT phone exchange unit and 3 flash indicators enabled
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| 2nd Aug 2012 1:09 pm |
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Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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Timos wrote:Thanks again i will order a Ball Joint Separator Lever Type from ebay and was hoping to make a puller to remove the bushes from some piping. once the bushes arrive i can work on that for size.
i didnt want to remove the hub. in case the tracking needed rejusting but i will take your advice and remove the lower arm it will be better that way to remove and fit bushes. Thank you
Timos
Just make sure that if you buy a ball joint splitter that it will fit the D3 ball joints, they are bigger than normal and the ones on ebay I think will be to small unless they state they will fit.
Flack
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| 2nd Aug 2012 7:57 pm |
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Biffysun
Member Since: 09 Jul 2011
Location: Central
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Ball Joint separator?  Thought you were a FBH man Flack? 
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| 3rd Aug 2012 12:02 am |
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Timos
Member Since: 16 Feb 2011
Location: Greece
Posts: 4
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Ball Joint Separator Long Lever Type 17mm Jaw
Part No: 0803000
Easy Removal Without Damage
Long Lever Type
17mm Throat Width
Suitable For Car Or LCV
To Be Used With A 16mm Wrench Or Socket
Brand New
Ebay Item number: eBay Item No. 310084918102
Hi This is what i ordered. Do you think this will work?
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| 3rd Aug 2012 1:33 am |
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Biffysun
Member Since: 09 Jul 2011
Location: Central
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Timos, save yourself some cash and use the Standard Land Rover tool for the job  A Big F  Hammer!  Seriously! You can 'break' the taper on the ball joint quite easily by 'shocking' it, ie striking it on the side NOT the top/nut but a good sharp strike on the side of the joint
Loosen the nut, take it off then put it on by hand a couple of turns, this is just to stop the ball joint dropping out when the taper breaks and drops, it will be fine, I'm sure most of the guys here use this method
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| 3rd Aug 2012 7:37 am |
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Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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Biffysun wrote:Timos, save yourself some cash and use the Standard Land Rover tool for the job A Big F Hammer! Seriously! You can 'break' the taper on the ball joint quite easily by 'shocking' it, ie striking it on the side NOT the top/nut but a good sharp strike on the side of the joint
Loosen the nut, take it off then put it on by hand a couple of turns, this is just to stop the ball joint dropping out when the taper breaks and drops, it will be fine, I'm sure most of the guys here use this method
Quote:Biffysun
Your spot on but you always get one and I had one yesterday on a bottom arm that no amount of hitting with my biggest hammer would shift it, I had to get some heat on it then it moved.. ..
Timos
I don't think that will fit, the bottom ball joint is long and I would have thought anything smaller than 50mm will not fit, and don't forget to get the bottom ball joint out you need to remove the drive shaft from the wheel knuckle.
Flack
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| 3rd Aug 2012 9:17 am |
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4x4nut
Member Since: 10 Nov 2010
Location: Wales
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Hey all. I need some help. I'm changing my wishbone bushes too and I'm having a nightmare of a time to shift my ball joint taper. Is there any other tips anyone can give me other then what is already in this tread. I have found some advice saying use a bigger hammer but I am at the stage where I have to remove the wing to get a sledge hammer in. I'm not keen on using heat as I don't have a oxy acetylene set. Not sure if some other heat sources would be sufficient enough. I am currently cleaning the ball joint and hub surface and getting as much penetrating fluid in it as much as I can.
I also not keen on cutting it as it will still leave me with the taper in the hub to get out which could be worse without the leverage of the wishbone and there will also be the problem that I will need to remove the ball joint from the wishbone.
Sorry if I have hi jacked that the topic. It's my first post on here (or any other site) but I through the best people to ask were already here.
Thanks
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| 5th Aug 2012 7:22 pm |
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Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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Unnecessary quote removed 
Put the lower not on to the taper just so it covers the thread then jack up the suspension on the nut so that the weight of the car is nearly all on the ball joint ( make sure you have an axle stand on the chassis) then give it a good stout knock with a good heavy hammer..
Flack
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| 5th Aug 2012 7:29 pm |
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scotty15
Member Since: 27 May 2012
Location: Alfreton
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The best way to shock the taper is to use two good size hammers and hit both at the same time on either side of the casting around the bottom ball joint. I had to use this method on one of my ball joints but the other side only took one good hit with the 2lb lump hammer to give in it's grip. 06 reg disco 3 HSE MY 06. Sat nav ,fridge, LR phone kit, rear passenger climate,
BAS remap
Wiggs BT phone exchange unit and 3 flash indicators enabled
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| 5th Aug 2012 8:14 pm |
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Biffysun
Member Since: 09 Jul 2011
Location: Central
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+1 for that Scotty
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| 5th Aug 2012 8:17 pm |
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