scorpio
Member Since: 26 Feb 2005
Location: Birmingham
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Just a quick one while cleaning the Discovery today I noticed that the paint finish leaves a lot to be desired orange peel effect all over one side and the opposite side rear quarter, I phoned the dealer to be told that "a good paint job should have a orange peel effect" ( i worked for 5 yrs in the body repair side of the motor industyr and I would have been sacked if I had sent a vehicle out like that). Also those nice arches I have one and only one that has gone white you clean it and it looks fine but as soon as it dries it goes white. This will be my first real ptroblem I have had to go back for just not sure how far to tkae it or go about it. Does any one else have a similar problem with paintwork and also those arches
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 16th Jun 2005 1:51 pm |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
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Paint work is crap with dirt in several places, I spoke to the dealer who said they would respray, but having spoken to my Brother in Law who used to produce models for IAD he advised to leave it as they will only make it worse! It has been advised to me by him and several others stick with the factory finish. Mine isn't orange peely, my parents one is a bit, but I think it is more visible on their black car compared to my silver one. DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
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| 16th Jun 2005 2:01 pm |
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Slimer
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My paintwork seems pretty good apart from one tiny 'glitch' on the roof that I can only see when I'm on a stepladder cleaning it.
Problem I noticed after last Sundays wash is one of my alloys is loosing it's laquer (spelling?). I've only used the alloy wheel cleaner that came from the dealer with the JewelUltra paint protection and a soft sponge to clean them. I'm going to give it a couple more washes and see if the other wheels start to suffer too then get my dealer to replace it/them The End
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| 16th Jun 2005 2:22 pm |
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BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
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Si, funny you should mention Jewel Ultra, that is what was on my plastic for some unknown reason. It made it go white near the body work. Nothing would get it off apart from the 'magic rubber', is your plastic trim white near the body work?
It appears that my car was treated with a cloth (by accident) that had the formulae on it. Got it off now after several weeks of trying, but the remedy Jewel Ultra gave would have melted the plastic I think.
Re the paint, mine is not bad apart from a 'pimple' on the top of the roof. Still it is young and all youngsters get spots 
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| 16th Jun 2005 3:04 pm |
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Slimer
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Now you mention it there are a few white streaks on the plastic next to the paintwork, they're only small so I haven't really been bothered by them.
Going to have to buy a magic rubber now to see if it gets them off  The End
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| 16th Jun 2005 4:11 pm |
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scorpio
Member Since: 26 Feb 2005
Location: Birmingham
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Just been to the dealer and we both agreed that the car needs a full respray I said I was not happy with that and he is going to contact Land Rover to see about exchanging the vehicle. Have to wait till next week to see what happens but it seems promising that my dealer will be very helpful the first time I have had to go back.
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| 16th Jun 2005 4:28 pm |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
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Definately go the replacement route, a respray will be a nightmare. DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
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| 16th Jun 2005 6:16 pm |
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Slimer
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Brian, I guess your dealer supplies the same paint protection as mine then.
As I had the protection applied marks can be accounted for by a bit of an overshoot during appplication.
Must admit to being pleased with the stuff so far, very easy to wash with the supplied shampoo (even the vast amounts of dead insects come off with very little effort), the synthetic chamois and mircofibre cloth that came in the kit dry the car really well and there's no need to polish.
Interior vinyl and plastic cleaner is a bit weird to put on, kind of greasy but looks good when dry, think I just need to find the right sort of cloth to apply it with. It can be used on the exterior plastic as well but I haven't tried that yet The End
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| 16th Jun 2005 9:09 pm |
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Gareth
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The paint on mine is almost perfect. There is a slight (and I mean very slight) shadow in the colour under the right rear window, over the fuel filler. It is only visible from one angle if the light is right. I am not going to go through the hassle of getting it sprayed, it is really nothing compared to the stone chips I already have 
The plastic on mine has remained perfect. It is still black, and all I use is Autoglym bumper protect. It also gets any polish marks off the plastic. I did not have the dealer applied paintwork protection. As soon as I took delivery, I washed and polished it with Autoglym Extra Gloss protect - very expensive, but fantastic stuff.
No I am not on a commission from Autoglym  Its just good stuff.
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| 16th Jun 2005 9:18 pm |
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BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
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Slimer wrote:Brian, I guess your dealer supplies the same paint protection as mine then.
As I had the protection applied marks can be accounted for by a bit of an overshoot during appplication.
Must admit to being pleased with the stuff so far, very easy to wash with the supplied shampoo (even the vast amounts of dead insects come off with very little effort), the synthetic chamois and mircofibre cloth that came in the kit dry the car really well and there's no need to polish.
Interior vinyl and plastic cleaner is a bit weird to put on, kind of greasy but looks good when dry, think I just need to find the right sort of cloth to apply it with. It can be used on the exterior plastic as well but I haven't tried that yet
I've had a couple of cars treated with it and found it to be fantastic. Easy to clean etc. I used to be able to get the kits to do it yourself for around £45 but I don't buy enough now, so cannot get them.
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| 17th Jun 2005 6:55 am |
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Ecosse
Member Since: 07 Jan 2005
Location: Grampian, Scotland
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Gareth wrote: As soon as I took delivery, I washed and polished it with Autoglym Extra Gloss protect - very expensive, but fantastic stuff.
No I am not on a commission from Autoglym Its just good stuff.
I did likewise - but used Autoglym wax polish first - 2 coats, then the Extra Gloss (which is like a glass finish) - all very easy to use  Also, used their specialist wheel dust protector (forget its name) very pricey  but it has helped to make the alloys easy to clean - just normal hose water & a wheel brush!
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| 17th Jun 2005 11:16 am |
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scorpio
Member Since: 26 Feb 2005
Location: Birmingham
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Ok latest update met a guy from Land Rover yesterday who came to inspect the paintwork, they have now said they would like to block both sides of the motor. I am not sure that I want to go down that route, what does anyone else think.
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| 24th Jun 2005 7:53 pm |
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BN
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scorpio, it is the old story of the spray gun. It has to be rubbed down, and resprayed. All that means, is that the car is taken away from you for whatever time it takes. It comes back as a refurbished car. It has dust in every nock and cranny, ceases to be a new car. The problem is just what do you do, its difficult. It also depends on who does the job, never mind if they are LR approved or not.
It is like decorating the house, what a mess.
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| 24th Jun 2005 8:01 pm |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
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The best finish you will get is the factory one, I know its bad, but messing around with it will at best only match the existing overall finish. Go for money off rather than them muck it about DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
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| 25th Jun 2005 5:05 pm |
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BN
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Pelyma's idea of money off is best. Get a couple of quotes from some first class insurance approved companies. Then send them to LR and ask for the cash and a letter saying that although the finish is not good, you will put up with it. However tell them you want a letter from them endorsing the fact that they will still honour the 6 year warranty.
Finally, contact a couple of dealers and ask them what difference the finish would make when it comes to update time.
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| 25th Jun 2005 5:11 pm |
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