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Mizengeo
 


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Broken wheel nut

Hi - new to the forum

I use Spikespyders as snow chains so each year need to swap normal wheel nuts on back wheels with the locking ones on the front to give five normal wheel nuts at the front to mount the hubs. Just swapped back and when I tightened a normal wheel nut on the back wheel it sheared - looking at the break, it appears to have been partially sheared for sometime as there is a lot of corrosion there. I have never used a torque wrench when tightening before (have one now!). I am left wondering is it likely I have damaged the nut (or is this a known fault) and if one has gone should I replace all (I can't tell if there is any damage to the others). I am thinking it might be fault - wouldn't over tightening normally damage the thread rather than the nut?

Look forward to your thoughts.

Thanks Geoff
  
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To be safe, if in any doubt I would replace them all. The correct torque is 140nm, which is not hard to achieve, especially if you were tightening them up with a breaker bar or similar.

If you were using the standard wheelbrace, I would say it would be very difficult to get a torque much higher without it falling to bits like they usually do.
  
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Mizengeo
 


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Thanks - yes I saw 140 nm for the torque - I was using the standard LR brace but I suppose damage could have been from garage / tyre shop.
  
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Hmmmm, once couldn't get my wheel nuts off after a service so took the car back to what is normally an excellent dealer. I asked the chief tech what they did to get the torque right & he told me about the torque whench that is solely for wheels. I then invited him to try and get my nuts off (figuratively speaking), needless to say he couldn't budge them. It then turns out that they put the nuts on with a normal air wrench, then use the toque wrench. Needless to say that's as much use a a choc teapot. Rolling Eyes I think they've changed their procedures as no problems since. Smile
  
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Entirely normal - they are supposed to do that!

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic69886.h...el+%2Bnuts

Also please get rid of your locking wheel nuts

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic68161.h...ruggedpeak

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locking wheel nuts

Locking wheel nuts Big Cry
i agree get rid of the locking wheel nuts while you can
i wasnt aware of this but when i needed new tyres last week the garage couldnt remove them so i had to beat them into submishion
which will mark your alloys
  
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Question....Mizengo

What exactly have you broken....
The stud......this has sheared off ?...can only be too much torque
Or the nut is damaged somehow ?......these swell anyway...
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