Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: Somerset
Posts: 169
Glasses prices for 10forcash's vehicle
Excellent Condition £32250
Average Condition £28250
Below Average £24750
On that basis i don't think your px is too bad?
13th Nov 2006 10:43 am
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
Thanks for that! i'd agree, especially as it's a manual not an auto (i'm assuming Glass' guide thinks all HSE's are auto)
13th Nov 2006 11:09 am
Tonyrec
Member Since: 01 Jan 2005
Location: Hertfordshire,UK
Posts: 263
Free Glasses Guide Valuation
You can get a free valuation by using the Vauxhall website.
Go to Vauxhall.co.uk
Click on Owners tab at top of page
Then click on value my car
Click on continue and this brings you into the 'free' check screen.
Ive just got a valuation on our HSE 06/06 with 8k miles and its come up with the following Part Ex prices.
Excellent - £37,000
Average - £32,500
Below Average - £28,500
Wonder what its really worth? (not that i want to sell it)
13th Nov 2006 11:21 am
cheddarwards
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: Somerset
Posts: 169
You can specify a manual HSE on Glasses (which i did) so it seems an accurate figure
13th Nov 2006 1:00 pm
nobbyclark
Member Since: 03 May 2005
Location: Perth, Scotland
Posts: 1268
Trade-in prices for fairly new cars can be shocking. Remember, you lose 10% just by driving away from the forecourt and it drops a few quid every day, the rate of drop being dependent on the model/spec. I seem to remember an earlier thread where someone found figures on one of the car sites that said that SE/HSE models depreciate faster than S's. In other words, enjoy the extra toys while you have them, as the next buyer will be getting them for a lot less.No longer a D3 owner but still subscribed to multiple threads!
I'm sorry to say my beloved D3 may have to make way for smaller vehicle.
I have been looking at a Golf GT 170 diesel, however I can't seam to get what I would call a reasonable trade price. I have a Jan 05 54 plate, SE Auto TDV6 with 20,000 miles full history and was described by a VW dealer as mint. Never been off road also has window tints and lamp guards. I was offered..............................................£23,500.
Any ideas what its worth, the VW dealer said that was all the could give but quoted me a book price of £27,500.
After numerous delays in the sale of my old house I finally expect to have a lump of money in my account for a D3 in the 2-3 weeks before xmas. I was leaning towards new, as the used values are relatively solid after 2 years but I'm beginning to wonder with trade offers like that! Typically people are asking £29-£30k for a 2005/54 SE Auto if you look on Autotrader. Methinks there's a dealer looking to make an unhealthy markup here.
Oddly enough I'm looking at the S & the SE Auto. Got the usual head/heart argument going on over whether I really "need" leather, heated seats and satnav.
13th Nov 2006 2:30 pm
swiss tony
Member Since: 02 Oct 2006
Location: in a sheepskin coat
Posts: 51
oooooooooh nasty dealers! there aresome pretty harsh (and some quite acurate) prices in there. just a couple of words of advice.
if your gonna shop try and go back the dealer you use for test drive/servicing and give them the last chance, its only fair that if the salesman putting in the hours with demo and product presentation shoud at least get the last chance of earning some money for his time. unless he is rubbish of course!
dont walk into a dealership with a parkers guide hanging out your pocket! the prices are pretty un reasonable and you can pretty much gaurentee will not help you get a good service, use the vauxhall site instead.
dont tell fibbs! we know your fibbing.....
dont come in looking for a fight (you might just get one) grrr selling land rovers is like making love to a beautiful woman.....
you dont mind getting stuck in the brown stuff from time to time.....
13th Nov 2006 3:04 pm
oliver77
Member Since: 23 Jun 2006
Location: Mid Wales
Posts: 398
swiss tony wrote:
dont tell fibbs! we know your fibbing.....
dont come in looking for a fight (you might just get one) grrr
I normally know when dealers are fibbing too......................their lips move!
13th Nov 2006 3:13 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73134
i remember many years ago being told on a training course that "BUYERS ARE LIARS"
I need to talk to the wife = she doesn't know that i am here!
i have to think about it = i am just going to the other local dealers to waste there time now!
i have to pick up my child from school/swimming etc = S T how can i get out of here! (i can't think of anything else)
The only Genuine excuses are i can't afford it!
or
i can't stand you (smarmy salesman) bye bye!Lakeland Land Rover
The Garage,
Torver,
Coniston,
Cumbria,
LA21 8BJ
Tel: 015394 41888
13th Nov 2006 3:33 pm
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
Swiss Tony wrote:
selling land rovers is like making love to a beautiful woman.....
you dont mind getting stuck in the brown stuff from time to time.....
13th Nov 2006 3:37 pm
COMMANDO
Member Since: 09 Oct 2006
Location: NORTH WEST
Posts: 67
TRADE PRICE
If the dealer is going to retail your car, then you should get a fair price.A lot of dealers just off load part exchanges of different makes to other dealers who at best offer bottom book.Some conmen dealers will tell you that they will not retail your car,offer you a pathetic price, then when you have done the deal change their minds and retail it!
A Ford main dealer once told me that they offer all their customers the price they would get in the trade,then decide which cars to retail and which to trade.It is always best to ask if they are going to retail it or trade it.
13th Nov 2006 3:55 pm
oliver77
Member Since: 23 Jun 2006
Location: Mid Wales
Posts: 398
Quote's from the Salesman in May this year included:-
The locking rear diff is a gimick, nobody wants them (have the car we have in stock rather than a factory order)
Im having my first Freelander 2's in next week
We're the top performing dealer in the country
You can run a HSE for 2 years and as long as it has sensible miles on it you'll get back pretty much what you paid for it
The engine starts of at 180 bhp but the power increases the more you use the car.
We're getting about 34mpg out of our D3 TDV6 but we're hard on them so you should get more than that
Sorry, it's the buyers who are liars? When I told the Dealer Principal about all the lies he said "you must know what salesmen are like"
Granted it's 11 years ago now, but I used to sell cars for a living. Well, Fords anyway, including the Maverick (stylish, mmmmmmm, errrr..... and the Probe ).
Things didn't get much better at the next dealership I worked at, a Rover and Jeep franchise on one site. I still have fond memories of swiftly jetwashing a '95 Cherokee demonstrator after a bit of greenlane fun so the Dealer Principle didn't see what I'd been up to, only to see the paint peel from the plastic wheelarches under the pressure.
I have a real issue with the ticket prices of some late used Discos when you see how much you can get them for brand new. £33k for a 12 month old car with 10,000 miles on it or £35k new if you shop around? I'll take the new one ta. If the "collapse" of 4x4 prices is coming, can it hurry up and happen before I hand my money over please?
it is sales people like that that give genuine ones like me a bad name
what you will find is the ones who find it nessesary to embelish are generally the ones who think they are the muts nuts but aren't, if you have a problem they will hide in the back until you have gone, never available to talk to after you have bought the car and are only in one place 12-18 months because everything/one catches up with them so are forced to move on
this realy winds me up
i surpose that like me with customers there in no nead to pre-judge or tar every one with the same brush.
Lakeland Land Rover
The Garage,
Torver,
Coniston,
Cumbria,
LA21 8BJ
Tel: 015394 41888
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