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The Transformer
 


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England 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Nara BronzeDiscovery 4

No problems with smoke from ours
  
Post #85945715th Nov 2011 8:42 pm
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D4JWW
 


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South Africa 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 GS Manual Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

Pete thanks for replying on this, would you change you supplied re-map if a customer would fit a de- cat pyp after receiving the re-map originally supplied with the cat in place? in other words what would be the benefit of the de-cat pipe? Would the same apply for adding a alisport inter cooler? Embarassed
 A few mods... and keeping it all running...Faultmate MSV2
MY09EGR's blanked Thanks Bellautos, BAS 
 
Post #85945815th Nov 2011 8:44 pm
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I asked Pete about this and he said it does not need changing as the ECU would adjust itself to suit Thumbs Up
  
Post #85945915th Nov 2011 8:46 pm
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D4JWW
 


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bellautos wrote:
2007 and onwards cars have more pre injection than pre 2007 cars and this may be contributing to the differences seen from car to car.

Could you explain in laymen's terms please?
 A few mods... and keeping it all running...Faultmate MSV2
MY09EGR's blanked Thanks Bellautos, BAS 
 
Post #85946015th Nov 2011 8:46 pm
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Hi

No special remap changes are needed for a decat as the ecu will sense any changes in inlet temprature from the hot gas being able to get away faster and not causing heat soak in the turbo and intercooler which inturn gives cooler inlet temps, also any flow rise rate changes are measured by the maf and the ecu will adjust any minor needs to suite its read inputs from the sensors above amongst others. The intercooler is much the same on the modern engine management system as the D3 uses.

Where as on the older basic pre historic engine management systems changes sometimes help but are never realy needed as they didnt make that much difference. Its just like fitting an aftermarket Bosal or Timax exhaust which has slightly different characteristics to the OE one.

Pete
 

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Post #85946815th Nov 2011 8:54 pm
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D4JWW wrote:
bellautos wrote:
2007 and onwards cars have more pre injection than pre 2007 cars and this may be contributing to the differences seen from car to car

Could you explain in laymen's terms please?


The 2007 onwards squirts more fuel in before the main squirt and some may be left over. It also squirts more in on overrun than the pre 2007 does.

Pete
  
Post #85946915th Nov 2011 8:55 pm
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just got the car back from complete service, timing belts etc, all fluids, filters....

AND,....






NO more blue smoke so it would seem....

will keep you up to date Smile
   
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henry-john
 


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again noticed the blue smoke, will be REcatting the car in 2weeks...

I just hope it's over after they, if not, I'm decanting the car once more, and looking for the problem elsewhere Smile
   
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stealer says it could be due to a small oil leak through valve rods but i cant believe this is the reason
IMO it is the turbo gaskets siezing
I mostly drive in S position so the car revs higher and has a better mileage IMHO
dunno but this is probably the reason: higher revs = faster siezing of turbo gaskets
should try to get the turbo refurb'd and see if something changes

removing and refitting the turbo through the wheel arch is a Censored nightmare isn't it Pete
I remember fitting the decat was not so difficul even if it's a bit tricky, but how about taking and refitting the turbo itself?

turbo manufacturers all say their turbochargers need a revision, there's plenty of infos on the net

why should the autobox properly mainteined, and not the turbo, even if LR says it's sealed for life
i'm 113k (km not miles) on the clock

F.
  
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