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slax
 


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BLanking out EGR valves! God ? Bad ideea ?!

Hello everybody ,

Just came fron the local land rover dealer ! And guess what ?! My egr's vavles are H.S !

Saw on ebay a blanking kit ! (for the moment short on cash to change them )

If it a good ideea to blank the egr's for a few weeks the time i get my self rolling again ?!

No problemes for the catalysator ?!

Best of luck , johnny !
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No problems at all. Just get them blanked and leave the blanking plates on permanently.
  
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nighthawk wrote:
No problems at all. Just get them blanked and leave the blanking plates on permanently.


Achamm so no damage to the cat ?! The told me from land rover that it can damage it ! But i think he was refering that ussing the car with the defected egr's can damage it !

So no problems for the blanker's ?

Thank's!
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what year is your car, as your cant blank the EGR's on a euro4 engine.

If its a Euro3 engine, then blank them off (and remove the inlet butterfly) and dont bother replacing them at all.

Al
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al cope wrote:
what year is your car, as your cant blank the EGR's on a euro4 engine.

If its a Euro3 engine, then blank them off (and remove the inlet butterfly) and dont bother replacing them at all.

Al


it's a 2005 moldele ! I thnik it's only euro 3 ?! Or is it ?! Rolling with laughter
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Thumbs Up Euro 3. Don't forget to clean your MAP sensor at the same time. Smile http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic64159.html?highlight=
   
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2005 - blank them and never worry about them in the future - BAS (site sponsor) do a good kit.

http://bellautoservices.co.uk/
  
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Thank you all !

Will order the egr blanking kit moday !

Best , from Belgium !
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The only issue (as I was informed of today by my Indy) is that the flap in the intake is also there to stop engine run-away, should there be an oil leak in to the cylinders. It's part of the engine management set up, and if the ECU detects runaway (how it would I don't know) it shuts the flap and therefore kills the air supply.

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J@mes wrote:
The only issue (as I was informed of today by my Indy) is that the flap in the intake is also there to stop engine run-away, should there be an oil leak in to the cylinders. It's part of the engine management set up, and if the ECU detects runaway (how it would I don't know) it shuts the flap and therefore kills the air supply.

Confused


Whell that this gave me a big question mark ! Smile) Rolling with laughter
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but if you dont take the butterfly out, with the EGRs blanked, where does the engine get its air from on the overrun, as the normal set up (without blanking) is butterfly closes + EGR's open = engine has something to breath (albeit exhaust crap). If you blank the EGR's without taking the butterfly out then there's nothing (air or exhaust) reaching the engine.

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has anyone left the EGRs in place and only took the butterfly valve out???
  
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That's the thing Al, you have to take the butterfly out to make the mod work, but the butterfly serves another function of shutting the engine down if it runs away. I guess the ECU looks at the revs and the throttle position and if the revs are high without the throttle being open then it thinks it's run away and kills it by shutting the EGR's and the flap. But that's only a guess. Confused
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certainly beats jumping out and stuffing a rag into the air intake to stop it (as seen done on a 300TDi D1), which didnt quite work as it stuck a conrod out the side of the block Shocked

Al
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Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
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Maybe someone will now come up with a manually operated (via a switch in the cab) butterfly Thumbs Up
  
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