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mwillems
 


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ANOTHER Wiring fault in my 2005 LR3?

Now my 2005 LR3 has an apparent wiring fault or shortcircuit, again... the left rear speaker constantly crackles very loudly and the "left rear door open" warning is on (no, it isn't open). If I turn off the light above my head, the warning and crackling stop.

Car is in the shop - has been for three days and I just got back from the USA to find that Budds in Oakville have not delivered it back.. so I shall be takiong taxis tomorrow (and for heaven knows how long). Has anyone had similar faults?
  
Post #8695321st Sep 2006 2:03 am
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Yes, there is an issue with the wires chaffing as they enter the door from the pillar. Easily fixed I understand.
  
Post #8696221st Sep 2006 7:28 am
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mwillems
 


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I just heard from the dealer: it is a short in a junction box under the dash. Took them two days to find and now we await the parts.
  
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From the day I took delivery of my 06 LR3, it had a problem where the power to the nav system would never completely go off. First, they replaced the nav unit under the seat. Then they replaced the touchscreen. Then they replaced the fuse box under the dashboard. Finally, someone realized that there must have been a short in the wiring. After apparently removing much of the interior of the vehicle, the technician found two wires pinched somewhere below the second-row seats.

After three trips to the dealer (and six or seven days driving a loaner vehicle) I finally had a working nav system.
  
Post #8709821st Sep 2006 5:36 pm
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mwillems
 


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Yes, it seems that in spite of being owned by BMW and Ford for years, electrical systems are still not LR's strong suite. I have had corroded wiring looms, coirroded sensors, and now a shorted fuse/juntion box way under the dash...
  
Post #8712621st Sep 2006 6:53 pm
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mwillems
 


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..and nor are logistics a LR forte... this fault occured Saturday. It is now 5 days further and we are at "we'll now have to wait a week for the part to come in from Land Rover".

And in the mean time I drive a Subaru, which I may even have to pay for. This is all very unfdortunate, yet another week or two in the shop with an electrical fault. Lemon?
  
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you should not have to pay for a courtesy vehicle for a warranty repair. LR will have to pick up any costs.
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Post #8718821st Sep 2006 9:23 pm
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mwillems
 


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LR will have to, I think so too - but I am not holding my breath. Be4cause if they say "the warranty only covers repairs, not replacement vehicles", what do I say? Contractually they would be right.

Of course theyy'd never sell me another LR,a nd my wife not another Jaoguar, so I suspect they'll be reasonable. But it is silly I had to sign the rental agreement in the first place, and I feel very silly now driving a Subaru for the next week. In fact they should pay ME!
  
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depends on consumer law over there.... here, legally consequential costs/compensation is claimable where the product failure results in you incurring additional costs. (although they like you to think they do this sort of thing out of the goodness of their hearts Rolling Eyes )

being US Im sure theres some such equivalent Laughing
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mwillems
 


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Yeah, but I'm in Canada...
  
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Laughing Laughing Laughing sorry ultimate insult for you guys... Embarassed ..... thats what you get for posting whilst working far too late. Well I hope Canadian consumer law is up to its neighbours. Wink
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mwillems
 


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I now know what it is - roughly.

- Shortciruit in the fuse box under the dash.

- To replace this, the fuse box sensor needs replacing too.

- This fuse box sensor needs to be programmed to my car.

- The only tool in North America that can do this, is in the USA

- But the software in this tool has changed, so they cannot use it to program a new fuse box sensor.

- They therefore have to get one from the UK.

- I am once again without my LR3 for a week.


I am not sure why getting a part from the UK takes so long; I offered to pay for Fedex next day delivery but it does not work that way, I am told.
  
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mwillems
 


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Still no car, still driving a Subaru I may have to pay for.

"The technician who was meant to fix my car called in sick", I was told today. Plus, that is academic, since when the part arrives in Canada it still needs reprogramming, which can only be done in New Jersey.

No ETA on any of that.

Sigh.
  
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sounds like the lamest excuse ever Evil or Very Mad good luck though!
 and theeeeennn......???  
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mwillems
 


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blue meanie wrote:
sounds like the lamest excuse ever Evil or Very Mad good luck though!


Thanks.. yes, it does all sound a tad lame. And LR is not terribly much of a help either. All very annoying - things go wrong, that I can understand and even forgive, but incompetence afterwards is harder to forgive.

- It takes over a week to get a part from the UK (I get stuff from the UK all the time in my business, and it takes Fedex a day - not a week).

- Then it needs to be reprogrammed, which can only be done in New Jersey. The programming machine is too expensive for LR Canada, or something. WHAT?

- Then the programming code on the machine was changed last year so it cannot program my part - or something.

- Then the technician calls in sick for the day - at 3pm. Right.

- Then after 5 dqays of asking I still get evasive answers when asking whether I pay for the loaner car or not (they made me sign for payment, but on the phone they say "I don't know; I will ask the service manager; I am not too worried", that sort of thing. So why not ask the service manager and tell me his answer?

Oh well. "Je me souviens", as they would say in Quebec! Smile
  
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