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Robbiemyboy
Member Since: 29 Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 5
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Final Descison Report post
Well after months of research i am off to the local Landrover Dealer to buy a car. What will I buy? Well i'm still not 100% sure but this is what i have been thinking.
1. BMW X5 a great drive but one dimensional. I think the quality, and inclusiveness of this car are hard to beat, but is it an allrounder? I dont think so.
2. RRS TDV6 a great car but with so many options needed to make it equipped like a $95K car should be , i feel a little cheated. Still its a beautifull car to look at drive and hopefully own.
3. Disco 3. I own an fairly ordinary Series II V8 Disco, but it is no relation to the new model. If it wasnt for the badge i would not have guessed. I think it feels slightly poderous on the road and no where near as nimble as RRS, but flexible, wow, This car is spacious, comfortable competent and capable. It doesnt have the prestige of RRS but in HSE format its mighty close.
If anyone can push me over the line with the descision please let me know. I do 30K per year in southern and central Queensland have 2 children and a dog.
_________________ We're all Jock Tamsons Bairns
Last edited by Robbiemyboy on 29th Aug 2006 9:47 am. Edited 1 time in total
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 29th Aug 2006 9:23 am |
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norto
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
Posts: 1605
 
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Robbiemyboy
The D3 is a great car both on road and off road
even one of my die hard toyota friends is starting
to think about changing to A disco
because of its looks and 4x4 ability
BTW welcome to the forum
peter
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| 29th Aug 2006 9:36 am |
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Robbiemyboy
Member Since: 29 Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 5
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Thanks Norto, have you driven the RRS? I must admit to leaning toward the Disco3 HSE. My dealer has 3 x 2005 models one with Premium st nav and two standard. I think he'd take 80k for the standard HSE, is that a fair price do you think? We're all Jock Tamsons Bairns
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| 29th Aug 2006 9:55 am |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
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if it includes on roads it sounds good but as the new 07 model is coming soon you might be able to push harder. is it a diesel or V8 and make sure to do a ring around a quote genuine prices until the dealers opt out of the race and see how far you can push until you come to the lowest price and then see if it is worth it depending on location to transport or pick up. be calm and look before you leap as you may miss a better deal.
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| 29th Aug 2006 11:26 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
 
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Agree with disco decision
X5 way too pricey (2 year warranty!!), rrs nice but not as flexible
check against the list price for engine model, you should be looking at a considerable discount for an 05 model.
if you go for this model ensure it has the enhancement before delivery.
By a rule of thumb you should be aiming for at least list price on road for new model (ie free dealer delivery rego etc) for old model dicount should be more.
make the dealers fight for your business go from one to the other, you are a live buyer use it. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 29th Aug 2006 10:20 pm |
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Robbiemyboy
Member Since: 29 Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 5
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Thanks guys, What is the enhancement you refer to caver? We're all Jock Tamsons Bairns
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| 29th Aug 2006 10:53 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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the enhancement program is when the dealer does a complet check for a number of known issues and corrects them. Installs complete new software.
Mine called it a recall but as it is not safety rated so is a service bulletin.
see:
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=80980#80980 “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 29th Aug 2006 11:31 pm |
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LeighW
D3 Decade
Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920
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Welcome to the forum Robbiemyboy
I had a look at the X5 but wanted something with a little more robustness (for a round Australia trip) - agree on your points about the X5 though.
The RRS is one heck of a nice package (based on the D3 gear) but does have only 5 seats and has not as much interior space (if that is important to you) - and I saw two in Chawton White and can't believe how good they looked.
I have a D3TDV6 S with fabric, 5 seats (didn't need 7) Climate Control and Air Suspension and have nothing but praise for the package. You might find that stepping back from the V8 to the TDV6 a little disappointing (but there are OTHER enhancements - search this forum for LRTuning, for example).
On the subject of price, in Brisbane there are two outlets for one dealer (less bargaining power for you) but I ended up purchasing from the Gold Coast - car was available - and was very happy with the sales process and servicing to date.
For the HSE, you may well be able to negotiate around $80k but if the dealer seems inflexible, look to extras that they could add to make the sale.
A sliding floor will make the placement of goods, etc. in the back a lot easier but LRA charges about $1500 plus fitting. Tow bar plus wiring connection, front mudflaps, durable fitted flooor mats, cargo barrier, etc. are things that you might try to bargain for.
Leigh LeighW
The old girl is on her third engine...
* first ran a bearing (design failure in original engine)
* second had a failure of the water outlet on top of the engine (pls check yours)
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| 30th Aug 2006 3:33 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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I would say you wouls not be too disapointed if you go to the tdv6 from the old buick engine from the DII. new tdv6 is as powerful with more torque but you will notice the turbo lag.
test drive and see.
i would avoid the v6 petrol it has the same fuel consumption as the v8!!!! “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 30th Aug 2006 4:43 am |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
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LeighW wrote:Tow bar plus wiring connection, front mudflaps, durable fitted flooor mats, cargo barrier, etc. are things that you might try to bargain for.
Leigh
the tow pack is standard across the range 
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| 30th Aug 2006 12:49 pm |
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Jamo
Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 1170
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When I bought mine, the 'Tow Pack' was standard but didn't include the 'Tow Hitch' itself.  That cost extra!  Have a nice day!
2010 Cayenne Diesel with PASM & Off Road Pkg
2005 HSE D3 (Sold)
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| 30th Aug 2006 1:04 pm |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
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must be getting a freebie 
by tow hitch do you mean the lockable removeable bit withuot the tongue
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| 30th Aug 2006 1:06 pm |
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Jamo
Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 1170
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No, the tongue and ball.
I thought it was a bit cheeky at the time..to provide a 'Tow Pack" but not the means to actually tow with. Have a nice day!
2010 Cayenne Diesel with PASM & Off Road Pkg
2005 HSE D3 (Sold)
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| 30th Aug 2006 1:10 pm |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
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it just read tow bar and wiring and as the towbar (as I know it) is integrated in the chassis I just assumed....
I didn't think they sold the tongue and ball due to the many varieties and heights of the hitch. I dont use a ball.
maybe LeighW could set me straight
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| 30th Aug 2006 1:18 pm |
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Jamo
Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 1170
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Not sure what you mean by varying heights, but I assume that you've got your own Treg type tongue or similar.
Balls's good enough for me as all I do is tow box trailers. Got no interest in vans. Have a nice day!
2010 Cayenne Diesel with PASM & Off Road Pkg
2005 HSE D3 (Sold)
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| 30th Aug 2006 2:28 pm |
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