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I have amended my post as PaulP gave me the nod, thanks mate.
Early mornings and late nights fitting all these General AT tyres.
Andy.
11th Nov 2010 7:41 am
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CymruD3 wrote:
Sorry Angelfire I meant the MTRs were a bit extreme. Very smart truck though, much cleaner than mine!
Agreed a wee bit extreme:
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But useful here, we had these conditioned for all but 3 weeks mid Nov to end March
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11th Nov 2010 8:29 am
AJS4X4
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MT/R's work well in deep snow but are poor in compact snow, winter tyres or chains best in compact white stuff.
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11th Nov 2010 8:33 am
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Just to add my logic into the mix. My thoughts, other thoughts may differ and I respect that. Taking deep breath!
But we don't get compacted white snow roads like in Scandinavia. We get soft snow which is rutted until the council gets round to ploughing & gritting it. We then have the leftover from ploughing, rough ice that melts and refreezes and melts and refreezes before it gets ploughed again. Key difference between UK and Scandinavia, USofA and Canada etc is we cycle up & down through the freezing point so tend to do a lot of driving on frozen slush. The only time I remember driving on a white compacted snow road was when (it looks like) the grittier blade was a bit high and left a nice smooth white road.
Stage 1
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Stage 2
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Stage 3, ploughing after snow blower has been through
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Then lots of
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Only time on smooth flat snow:
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11th Nov 2010 10:38 am
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Come on Del you should be in front of the Snow Blower go on grow some
11th Nov 2010 11:05 am
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Got close enough!!
OK I lied, pic from Cairngorm Mountain website!!
11th Nov 2010 11:23 am
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Yes but you live in the sticks with no other cars around to pack it down,
Bit different down here where the civilised live, horses for courses as they say.
Nice picture though
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11th Nov 2010 11:33 am
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At the mo about 2 junctions clockwise on the M25 from you, can't really say about down souff as haven't experienced the light dusting you have down here. Every time anyone down here talks about the bad winter I just roll my eyes and think "Don't get me started about winter ............".
11th Nov 2010 11:38 am
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Ken wrote:
CymruD3 wrote:
How do the ice & snow tyres handle on dry roads? Would you say they are worse than an AT tyre?
Ice and snow Pirelli fine in the Winter but not a all year tyre def give an edge in the Winter but braking is compromised in warmer temps the clue is in the name
You really have the choice of Pirelli ATR or the General AT my money is spent on the ATR tried and tested in ALL TERRAINS, the new kid is the GT AT very good reports maybe rose tinted specs as it's very early at the mo but for the use you suggest these are the two tyres best suited to your needs, it may come down to what's available as well
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11th Nov 2010 12:02 pm
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choice is rather simple here grabber AT or Pirlli ATR (excellent wear rates mate!!!!) unless u loaded than go for two sets of wheels one on ATRs and on one Verdsteins....
problem solved
11th Nov 2010 12:15 pm
AJS4X4
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Now them Vredestein Wintrac 4 Xtreme are very good
And them General AT superb.
Andy.
Pirelli ATR are not tooooooooooooooooooo bad if you can find them.
Andy.
11th Nov 2010 12:19 pm
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OK, OK old pic and they are now in the dining room rather than kitchen, and they are on rims. They'll be on SWMBO's car permanently from next week so I can get her 17s. I love it when a plan comes together!!
11th Nov 2010 12:26 pm
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As you are away from home I am going to send the boys in to nick them
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11th Nov 2010 12:35 pm
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Just tell the when they get to Watford Gap the maps say "Thar be Dragons"!! And they still have 500 miles to do!
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can't really say about down souff as haven't experienced the light dusting you have down here. Every time anyone down here talks about the bad winter I just roll my eyes and think "Don't get me started about winter ............". 
