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dick dastardly
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: wiggleigh bottom
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if u wanna nuckle draggin' tdi v8, go 4 the toerag although gaddafi is decended from a long line of toerags. There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
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 26th May 2011 10:04 pm |
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Zermatt Vulgaris
Member Since: 12 Jan 2009
Location: aberdeenshire
Posts: 511
 
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Test drove a touareg escape yesterday ... nice car .... very swift on pick up and gear box very smooth.
If the one i drove yesterday had been available i would have been pretty tempted .... but it was already sold.
going to keep my powder dry and see what MY2012 brings on the Disco4XS
Downsides of the Touareg:
1. no seven seats.
2. no terrain response
3. wing mirrors are very aerodynamic but useless to look out of.
4. Resdiuals
5. A lot of dealers don't know or understand the product.
6. it does not have a green oval on the front.
Upsides:
1. lower tax band than disco.
2. far quicker on road and more economical
3. Sat nav and ipod connections are slicker Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2011MY Zermatt Silver Range Rover Sport HSE 3.0 TDV6
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| 31st May 2011 11:16 am |
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Mike767
Member Since: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Congleton, Cheshire.
Posts: 138
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I'm looking to replace my decent condition 2006 D3 HSE with 75K on the clock. The D4 HSE should be the obvious choice but it is a big lump of money for a car that is broadly similar. I've made several attempts at buying one, but the head always seems to rule the heart. £30K+ of hard earned and taxed dosh for some extra refinement and a warranty. There are no special LR incentives on offer at the moment either.
My Disco 3 has been pretty reliable (unlike my 300TDi and TD5) so I am loyal to the brand, but I think Land Rover need to make a "step change" for me to trade up. The VED is getting beyond a joke (£460 this year) and the 24 mpg is pathetic when compared to some other large 4X4's.
I like the look of the VW but it is not a "proper" 4X4. It does have the appeal of German reliability and lower running costs, it just needs a green oval on the front!
Anyone else feel the same? 
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| 31st May 2011 10:49 pm |
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Zermatt Vulgaris
Member Since: 12 Jan 2009
Location: aberdeenshire
Posts: 511
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Exactly the same keep on looking at D4 XS and the extra sum to swap and it does not make a great deal of sense .. hence why i started looking at what else was out there. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2011MY Zermatt Silver Range Rover Sport HSE 3.0 TDV6
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| 31st May 2011 11:58 pm |
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a517458
Member Since: 01 Mar 2011
Location: California, USA
Posts: 12
  
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you come to a land rover forum....the answer of course will be D4~
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| 1st Jun 2011 5:54 am |
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jenzz
Member Since: 02 Apr 2011
Location: Germany
Posts: 39
 
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Life is too short to drive something as boring as a Volkswagen.
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| 1st Jun 2011 7:01 am |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
Posts: 6222
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DSL wrote:If you want reliability go for VW, if you want ability but potential for problems go for LR. !
my thoughts exactly...capability by the wagon load for the D3/4.....swiss watch reliability for the VW...+ mainly a very competant service network......ultimately the Disco is far larger inside when you put all the seats down.
I looked hard at a VW before my D3 & to get anywhere near the D3 HSE spec at that time you had to buy all sorts of options..that wouldnt be reflected in any resale value
if the Touareg had DSG it may be different... BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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| 1st Jun 2011 7:08 am |
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disco rob
Member Since: 04 Jul 2010
Location: Sussex
Posts: 62
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NOT having the green oval on the front is a BIG bonus in my eyes. VW Touareg 3.0 Altitude
Mondeo 04 Reg (Hers)
Swift Conqueror 645 Lux
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| 4th Jun 2011 6:14 pm |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
Posts: 6222
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jenzz wrote:Life is too short to drive something as boring as a Volkswagen.
you got it right VW's are boringly good...!
& to be honest just boring with no character & totally lacking capability BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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| 4th Jun 2011 6:56 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
Posts: 19689
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Christ, you swallowed the whole ad campaign from the 80s hook, line and sinker didn't you. VW are no more reliable than any other make. Look on the Treg forums for evidence  or talk to a few dealer techs  I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 4th Jun 2011 8:13 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 3292
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Couple of Touregs in the village with propper nobbly tyres on - they actually look pretty alright! 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 5th Jun 2011 7:14 am |
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PdP
Member Since: 20 Jun 2011
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 25
 
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Hi guys.
I went through this exercise four years ago when I was looking to replace a Defender. I had a good hard look at the Toureg at the time, and while I agree with many here that it's a good car, my single biggest concern, was what to do with the 'full size flat tyre', once I had replaced it with the deflated (to be inflated) compact spare that sits under the back floorboard. Sure you can put it in the back, but what if the back is full of your holiday bags and the flat also happens to be wet and muddy - I'll tell you this much; the dealer could not answer me!!!
I'll add, that to the best of my knowledge, you can't fit a rear mounted spare-wheel carrier to the 'new' Toureg!
All in all, there can be no doubt, that every make and model has their fair share of problems. I just think Landy owners are not prepared to hide them away and protect the manufacturer like others do.
Cheers
Peter
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| 20th Jun 2011 10:21 pm |
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