Member Since: 03 Mar 2006
Location: Rosebank
Posts: 81
dsc and outback roads
G'day all
one of the ways DSC is said to operate is to apply braking to wheels that are slipping/sliding as well as some throttle moderation in under and oversteer situations. Most of us are familiar with the typical outback road - corrugated, bulldust/sand and often strewn with small rocks which I generally tackle by driving at anywhere between 85 and 120 km/h to smooth out the corrugations which always results in significant amounts of slipping and sliding -all part of the fun and skill of covering large (> 300kms) sections of this extraordinary land in an acceptable time frame.
With all this 'destablised' activity going on am I going to have a DSC system working overtime and wearing out components (such as brakes) very quickly, or is the system just watching and only interfering at the last minute? does it light up when on? and will some of the fun of drifting thru long sweeping bends be lost? any experience or thoughts about this dilema? Basically leave it on in such conditions or disable?
regards Angus
4th Jun 2006 3:51 am
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
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You will find most of the info you require about DSC here (ESC is the generic name)
ESC cannot override a car's physical limits. If a driver pushes the possibilities of the car's chassis and ESC too far, ESC cannot prevent a crash. It is a tool to help the driver maintain control.
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[I generally tackle by driving at anywhere between 85 and 120 km/h to smooth out the corrugations which always results in significant amounts of slipping and sliding ]
youll never get anywhere if your dead, just let me know when your in SA so i can avoid you
[With all this 'destablised' activity going on ]
destabilised in your thinking
4th Jun 2006 7:15 am
Tony
Member Since: 20 Apr 2006
Location: Adelaide Hills
Posts: 183
We gave the Disco it's first long dirt road trip last week on some of the corrugated dirt 'roads' along the North of the Murray River, with the van on tow, and from our campsites without the van. Never saw any sign of the DSC activating, even while in some (mild) slides around unexpected corners, so sijui, I don't think you need worry too much.
Very impressed with the D3 though - quiet and comfortable for the 3-4 hour slog to get beyond civilization, using 16.1 l/100km on asphalt at about 100km/h, not on cruise control 9V6 petrol). Very stable on the dirt and, a real change from the Defender, DUSTPROOF! But that illigitimate tow hitch is FAR too low!
Some new photos are posted.
Cheers,
Tony.Ex Defender 110 200Tdi owner.
4th Jun 2006 7:17 am
sijui
Member Since: 03 Mar 2006
Location: Rosebank
Posts: 81
hey Tony
thanks for your feedback about the dsc and I will be leaving it on in most situations though I have seen posts here that recommend turning it off anytime you use a TR program
This car is very surefooted and gets you wherever effortlessly. I have been getting around 9-10l/100kms with only 4000 on the clock. I don't like the loose drivetrain and i reckon a software fix should be engineered for this but i bet you it won't happen.
I have been waiting 2 months for the flexible loadspace protector - seat covers look crappy but probably work
I am going with the arb bullbar and the lr side steps
LR have got to do something with the towing setup!
the last land rover I had was in 1977 - a range rover that was like a vacuum cleaner. but it was at its time a ground breaking car and i think may be the d3 is another
Thanks dickgriff for the notes on dsc
cheers
Angus
Don't worry about DSC on gravel, I've never switched it off for the gravel and it's never caused me any grief. Just switch to 'Gravel, Grass & Snow' on the TR and you'll have no problems!Have a nice day!
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...but you do want to turn DSC off in mud/ruts, sand, or rock crawl to limit it interfering with forward progress.
The manual also states this.
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5th Jun 2006 6:58 am
sijui
Member Since: 03 Mar 2006
Location: Rosebank
Posts: 81
Thank you for the good oil on the dsc. dickgriff's link has an interesting critique of these stability control systems and how they are said to contribute to a degraded driving experience. Not something I think is likey where we will be driving the d3!
saw in the australian paper that car jacking in sydney (for atm ram and grab) is on the increase as immobilsers in flash fast cars are proving too hard for thieves to nick - we better watch out with the d3 as i reckon it would make a formidable ramming car if you could bear the pain of trashing well engineered machinery
5th Jun 2006 7:20 am
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sijui, I don't thinks "they" will loose too much sleep!
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