DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - ARB rear air locker under development

daveyb

Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
Location: SF
Posts: 135

caverD3 wrote:
Interesting to know how they have made it work with the traction control.
I am sure they will get a letter from LR lawyers saying it is illegal and will affect the brakes though.

2006 D3 Tonga Green
275/65/18 GY DuraTracs - ARB w/ EP9.0 - Sasquatch Rods

5th Nov 2009 1:40 pm

Rob Bruce

Member Since: 18 Jun 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 687

Just rember that other ARB air lockers and I assume its the same mechinism just re-done to fit the D3, that it is important not to engage it with one wheel spinning, ie. engage it before you get into trouble so as there is no load on the diff and going slow and boath wheels turning at the same speed and you are in a straight direction.
This is because there is a dog gear that the air pushes into a splined slot locking up the axels and it can be chewed up. Also if you use it a lot the oil needs to be changed regually.
Diff oils are very different for the ARB air locker, I assume the LR recomended carbon modified stuff would be too thin. ARB recomend 80/90 gear oil for light use and for heavy duty use ie. sand dunes , lots of slow rock crawls, to use HD 140 or 80/140 oil. Alot of users of the ARB air lockers also add Newlon gear additive which is a teflon anti friction stuff.
I run 80/140 with Newlon in front and rear diffs in my project 4wd and the lockers work much better and the oil is noticeably cleaner at oil change time.

Hope ARB devolope a locker for the front of the D3 as well, that would be awsome

As to fitting the unit, you could do it DIY, but as the LR crown and pinion has to be fitted to the ARB centre this needs to be set up by a diff expert and the rest you can do. Also the ARB diff centre is much stronger than any other brand of diff centre so this would be a bonis.

Cheers
Rob MY05 TDV6 SE, dirt colour, Now cremated !!!!!!!

6th Nov 2009 12:02 am

HSV Rangie

Member Since: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 26

fitting arb centre is easy, yes there are a few set up requirements but nothing beyond a competent mechanic.

Michael.

9th Nov 2009 2:49 am

rmp

Member Since: 15 Jan 2009
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Posts: 73

There is no Air Locker planned for the D3. Only an assessment has been carried out and it is feasible. As ever, whether it happens will depend on the demand. --
Robert
Life is better in low range

13th Nov 2009 12:38 pm

er1c

Member Since: 24 Jan 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 183

http://www.devon4x4.com/pedantry-millimetr...;Itemid=14

This site is selling an "ARB Disco 3 air locker." I can't find any other info anywhere.

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9th May 2013 4:14 pm

disco4x4au

Member Since: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Perth
Posts: 409

er1c wrote:
http://www.devon4x4.com/pedantry-millimetr...;Itemid=14

This site is selling an "ARB Disco 3 air locker." I can't find any other info anywhere.

I believe this is for the front diff - at least that's what they're being marketed for over here in Oz (see the thread on here below). I've been arguing that it would be a better business decision if they'd developed a rear diff locker first, but that's a longer story.

Cheers,

Gordon ex - 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff - R.I.P.
ex - 2009 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, had lots of stuff too!
Now - 2010 RRS 3.0 TDV6, rimini red, 18" rims + Cooper LTZ, rear eLocker, Spider tuning box, GOE protection plates and rock sliders, GOE 3way shortened rods.

13th May 2013 2:41 am

Snafu4wd

Member Since: 11 Sep 2012
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 56

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Indus Silver

I had a Front ARB Locker fitted to my D3 a few months ago as soon as the Local Dealer got word they were available. Already had E-Diff on the rear.

disco4x4au wrote:
er1c wrote:
http://www.devon4x4.com/pedantry-millimetr...;Itemid=14

This site is selling an "ARB Disco 3 air locker." I can't find any other info anywhere.

I believe this is for the front diff - at least that's what they're being marketed for over here in Oz (see the thread on here below). I've been arguing that it would be a better business decision if they'd developed a rear diff locker first, but that's a longer story.

Cheers,

Gordon

1999 Disco 1, 300TDi, Snorkel, ARB Dual Lockers, 9500 Come-Up Winch, Custom Bars & Sliders, Terrafirma +2in Shocks. Silverstone MT-117 33".
2006 Disco 3 , TDV6, Active Rear Diff, ARB Front Locker, KW-Systems Chip, Snorkel, ARB Bullbar, ARB CKMA12 compressor, Kaymar Rear Bar, GOE Armour, GOE Sliders, 12000lb Kingone Winch, LLAMS Height adjustor, Traxide Dual battery w/Optima Yellowtop, GoodYear Road Tyres & Maxxis 275/65R18 Mud Tyres, Ironman Dual Storage Drawer System, GME 3100 UHF

20th Aug 2013 12:23 am

er1c

Member Since: 24 Jan 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 183

Snafu4wd, how's it working out for you so far? Do you recommend it? Any possibility of perhaps getting a picture of it installed? Long Ranger aux fuel tank, Traxide w/ yellow top battery, Sasquatch rods, G4 tail guards, GVIF 6.2, CarPC (Dual-Core Atom D525, 64GB SSD, 4GB DDR3 & M3-ATX 125W PSU, Win7 Pro 64 w/ Centrafuse 3.5), Yaesu FT-8900R ham radio w/ Comet CA-2x4SR, reverse CCD camera, RLD laptop seat mount, RLD roof antenna mount, Viair 400P compressor, 3K xenons, 2.5K halogen fogs, Series 3 mudflaps, 1.25" Wheel Spacers (Motorsport Tech), Baja Roof Rack

20th Aug 2013 12:56 am

Snafu4wd

Member Since: 11 Sep 2012
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 56

I have done a couple of trips with it and used it, works just fine, on sand better with all the traction stuff turned off though. Mud definately better

Not much to see underneath but pics of the buttons in my Gallery here I think. And the Twin engine ARB compressor I installed earlier is awesome.

er1c wrote:
Snafu4wd, how's it working out for you so far? Do you recommend it? Any possibility of perhaps getting a picture of it installed?

1999 Disco 1, 300TDi, Snorkel, ARB Dual Lockers, 9500 Come-Up Winch, Custom Bars & Sliders, Terrafirma +2in Shocks. Silverstone MT-117 33".
2006 Disco 3 , TDV6, Active Rear Diff, ARB Front Locker, KW-Systems Chip, Snorkel, ARB Bullbar, ARB CKMA12 compressor, Kaymar Rear Bar, GOE Armour, GOE Sliders, 12000lb Kingone Winch, LLAMS Height adjustor, Traxide Dual battery w/Optima Yellowtop, GoodYear Road Tyres & Maxxis 275/65R18 Mud Tyres, Ironman Dual Storage Drawer System, GME 3100 UHF

20th Aug 2013 1:12 am

garrycol

Member Since: 06 Dec 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1130

Snafu4wd wrote:
on sand better with all the traction stuff turned off though. Mud definately better

Not sure I quite follow that - traction control does not work anyway with these olde style diff locks (they are locked so no wheel slip between wheels) and how do you turn off traction control anyway other than pulling a fuse somewhere as there are no switches to turn it off.

I can accept the center diff lock will behave differently as there is likey to be less slippage from the front when the ARB is locked.

Cheers

Garry

20th Aug 2013 4:10 am

Snafu4wd

Member Since: 11 Sep 2012
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 56

If I turn it off then the rear E-Diff seems better, the braking effect does not interfere and the rear ediff seems to stay locked as needed. No, makes no difference to the front ARB locker

Unnecessary quote removed 1999 Disco 1, 300TDi, Snorkel, ARB Dual Lockers, 9500 Come-Up Winch, Custom Bars & Sliders, Terrafirma +2in Shocks. Silverstone MT-117 33".
2006 Disco 3 , TDV6, Active Rear Diff, ARB Front Locker, KW-Systems Chip, Snorkel, ARB Bullbar, ARB CKMA12 compressor, Kaymar Rear Bar, GOE Armour, GOE Sliders, 12000lb Kingone Winch, LLAMS Height adjustor, Traxide Dual battery w/Optima Yellowtop, GoodYear Road Tyres & Maxxis 275/65R18 Mud Tyres, Ironman Dual Storage Drawer System, GME 3100 UHF

20th Aug 2013 10:28 pm

garrycol

Member Since: 06 Dec 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1130

As I asked before - how do you turn traction control off - without pulling fuses that will through up faults and other issues TC cannot be turned off.

Are you getting confused with DSC which can be switched off?

Garry

22nd Sep 2013 4:36 am

Snafu4wd

Member Since: 11 Sep 2012
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 56

Yea, I guess DCS off and not set those Sand/Mud settings knob 1999 Disco 1, 300TDi, Snorkel, ARB Dual Lockers, 9500 Come-Up Winch, Custom Bars & Sliders, Terrafirma +2in Shocks. Silverstone MT-117 33".
2006 Disco 3 , TDV6, Active Rear Diff, ARB Front Locker, KW-Systems Chip, Snorkel, ARB Bullbar, ARB CKMA12 compressor, Kaymar Rear Bar, GOE Armour, GOE Sliders, 12000lb Kingone Winch, LLAMS Height adjustor, Traxide Dual battery w/Optima Yellowtop, GoodYear Road Tyres & Maxxis 275/65R18 Mud Tyres, Ironman Dual Storage Drawer System, GME 3100 UHF

22nd Sep 2013 4:56 am

Redback

Member Since: 19 Jun 2011
Location: Helensburgh NSW
Posts: 40

2011 Discovery 4 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Orkney Grey

A bit of an update on the front and rear lockers from ARB for the D3/D4, they have stopped fitting rear lockers for the D4 for the moment, apparently they have had some small issues after fitting.

Still fitting them to the D3 though, which I find odd, I assumed the diffs on the D3 and D4 were the same

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13th Nov 2013 11:22 pm

Snafu4wd

Member Since: 11 Sep 2012
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 56

Yes, great news. I would have one in a heartbeat if I did not already have elocker

The Front ARB Locker in my D3 has been great 1999 Disco 1, 300TDi, Snorkel, ARB Dual Lockers, 9500 Come-Up Winch, Custom Bars & Sliders, Terrafirma +2in Shocks. Silverstone MT-117 33".
2006 Disco 3 , TDV6, Active Rear Diff, ARB Front Locker, KW-Systems Chip, Snorkel, ARB Bullbar, ARB CKMA12 compressor, Kaymar Rear Bar, GOE Armour, GOE Sliders, 12000lb Kingone Winch, LLAMS Height adjustor, Traxide Dual battery w/Optima Yellowtop, GoodYear Road Tyres & Maxxis 275/65R18 Mud Tyres, Ironman Dual Storage Drawer System, GME 3100 UHF

14th Nov 2013 12:20 am