PierreJ
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WHy is it called a D4/LR4 |
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Having owned all the Discos since it was produced, I strike this as funny that they call this one a D4.
I had a 91 Disco with the fugly blue interior and the small headlights, and the 3.5 v8.
In 94 they brought out the updated version with the 3.9v8. Still a Disco1 but with new dash and lights.
In 99 the all new Disco2 came out. All new body panels and new engine with new electronics. In 2003 they brought out the facelift version, and I got that as well, with all the 750 changes advertised, and this was still a D2.
Now having had two D3's they bring out a Facelift model with a new dash, and new engines and call it a D4.
WTF, it's still a D3 facelift.
My 2c's worth Why is the fear of long words called hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?
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13th Apr 2009 2:26 pm |
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Wex
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I agree with you on this one Pierre. Marketing at it's finest.Speaking up on this might get you branded as a knuckle dragger.
Look forward to getting a spin in the facelift/enginelift/dashlift D3 though.
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13th Apr 2009 2:36 pm |
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PierreJ
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I think I have earned the right to be called a knuckle dragger.
I have owned LR's manufactured by British Leyland, AAD, BMW, Ford, and will some day own one made by Tata, if not sold to someone else before hand. Why is the fear of long words called hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?
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13th Apr 2009 2:54 pm |
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tyke65
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PierreJ wrote:and will some day own one made by Tata
THAT's why they've called it the D4! Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get you.
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15th Apr 2009 7:23 am |
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PierreJ
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tyke65 wrote:PierreJ wrote:and will some day own one made by Tata
THAT's why they've called it the D4!
We can probably expect a lot of bling options in the accessories, .i.e. Chrome Lettering, Chrome LR Badges etc. Why is the fear of long words called hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?
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15th Apr 2009 11:52 pm |
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marshn
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Quote: from: here:
In 1994, many changes were made to the Discovery I and reached some markets as "Discovery 2"; the 200Tdi and 3.5 L V8 engines were replaced with the 2.5 L 300TDi 4-cylinder and 3.9 L Rover V8 engines, the 300Tdi introducing a Bosch electronic emissions control for certain models and markets.
So, in some markets there's the Disco 1, Disco 2, Real Disco 2, LR3 & LR4.
But the reality should be: Disco 1 (200 series), Disco 2 (300 series), Disco 3 (Series II), Disco 4 (Series II faceift), Disco 5 (LR3), Disco 6 (LR4)
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16th Apr 2009 5:42 am |
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Martin
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This is going to be the eternal debate, however I personally think it's to fit in with the new LR4 name in the US, which leaves the LR3 name for a new 7 seater Freelander (LR2) variant.
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16th Apr 2009 10:17 am |
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Wex
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Can they shift/juxtapose model names just like that Martin , would it not lead to a lot of confusion ?
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16th Apr 2009 10:56 am |
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Depends on the timescale between models names. Peugot have done it in the past..... Bodsys Brake Bible
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16th Apr 2009 11:00 am |
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was chatting to a LR bod a few weeks back and he said to be deemed a new model it only needed xx amount of new parts, considering the d4 has a whole new engine amongst other things it is allowed to be called it..
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16th Apr 2009 11:15 am |
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Wex
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Interesting.
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16th Apr 2009 11:39 am |
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PierreJ
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ad15 wrote:was chatting to a LR bod a few weeks back and he said to be deemed a new model it only needed xx amount of new parts, considering the d4 has a whole new engine amongst other things it is allowed to be called it..
If that was the case, then LR missed the boat when they replaced the TDI with the TD4 motor in the Freelander, and then again with the facelift. We could have been up to LR4 there already.
Then again on the Disco from a 3.5V8 and 200Tdi to the 3.9V8 and 300Tdi on the series 1, and with the 750 changes on the Series II Disco from the original to the facelift.
Then again on the FFRR going from the BMW 4.4V8 to the Jag 4.4V8.
Poor old Defender changed from One Ten and Ninety to Defender 110 and Def 90. That in more than 20 years.
Hopefully I will not buy a Disco 7.5 in 2011, fitted with the new ashtray.
Makes you wonder why the 911 is an icon, with "sub models" 964, 993, 996, 997 etc. They still stick with the concept, although running model numbers. Why is the fear of long words called hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?
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16th Apr 2009 12:03 pm |
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ad15 wrote:considering the d4 has a whole new engine amongst other things
I thought it was the same engine but with bigger cylinders and new stuff bolted on
They've upped the capacity to 3.0L and stuck on new common rail injection, EGRs, Turbos/manifolds etc, but I think it is still the same engine isn't it? 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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16th Apr 2009 12:06 pm |
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20" LR OE factory alloy wheels for new D4 |
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Does this mean that the steering on the D4 will be
damped like the Sport, to cope with the extra vibration
through the wheels/tyres........ or will it be the bumpy
D3 style ride and LR just want the money?
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16th Apr 2009 12:35 pm |
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Re: 20" LR OE factory alloy wheels for new D4 |
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Neil Pettersen wrote:........ or will it be the bumpy
D3 style ride ...
Is that for real I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
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16th Apr 2009 12:37 pm |
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