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BournevilleBazza
 


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Landrover whole life environmental effect - any figures?

Afternoon All,

Heavy title I know.

Just had the usual argument with our accountant about how environmentally damaging my Disco is etc and how he drives a Nisaan Note because he cares about the world we are leaving behind for our children.

I put the argument to him that roughly 75% of all LRs ever built are still around as compared to very few small japanese cars over a few years old.

I'm sure the initial build of a car with all the associated components and transport costs thereof would be pretty huge compared to the amount of harm the output of said finished article creates.

Has anyone any figures or are these all a closely guarded secret to keep the car tax market "bouyant?"

Strange question I know but any help appreciated.

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D3 dust life is 16 years apparently Wink ....compared to a greenfreak motor like the Prius where the batteries are said to only lask 100k before all change Rolling Eyes
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and the Prius ships many items in from other countries before being put together. As far as manufacturing goes, the Prius is one of the worst in terms of pollution!
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Cant help with the figures but

1 Discovery3 lasts 16 years (possibly longer) So you will have to buy 4 Nissan ? to cover the same time period of 16 years. So do the math, 4 lots of production costs, 3 lots of disposal costs etc etc.
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He just finished the discussion by calling me Jeremy Clarkson. I think I won!! Wink
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Sack him and get a new accountant every one knows that land rover are all recyclable that's why they last so long.
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I don't know why he is worried about the world he is leaving behind for his kids, driving a Nissan Note his kids won't want to even know him Wink
  
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I seem to remeber reading it was something like 60-70% of all Land Rover models produced were still on the road Whistle
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I don't know why he is worried about the world he is leaving behind for his kids, driving a Nissan Note his kids won't want to even know him Wink

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whats this 'environmental impact' you speak off ?

Same chumps who profess lead can be turned to gold and about as much proof.

Never going to run out of diesel ever. If they stop drilling it out the ground, they can make it from cats

so tell your accountant to stop being a greenie or his cats going into the disco.

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This story is old and lacking in references, but contains lots of useful stats:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=13577

Then again, tell your accountant that there are more pressing matters in the UK, let alone the world, than how many carbons are spat out of your exhaust. As a bean counter, he should understand that.
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I also forgot this article from our next PM, Jeremy Clarkson in last week's Times:

Quote:
And it’s better for the environment too. Yes, you could buy a Toyota Prius, but let’s be honest, the nickel for its batteries is mined in Canada, and shipped — not on a sailing boat, I might add — to Norway or some other intermediate location where it’s processed and then shipped on again to Japan where it is put in the car, along with an electric motor and a normal engine. The finished product is then shipped halfway back round the world again before it arrives in a dealer near you. You may think of it, if you like, as an Israeli strawberry.

A Range Rover, on the other hand, is made in the Midlands, which means, if you buy one, it only has to come down the road. You may think of it, then, as an organic, farm-fresh product, sourced and grown locally. And I know how important that is to shoppers these days.


Full article here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/j...902399.ece
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That was the article that started the argument!!

Still not sure about the French though!

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