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DrLex
Member Since: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Ciderspace [Oi be in Zummerset]
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Having seen a pair of controls for sale, does anyone know whether it's possible to install these in an 'S' with the standard HK audio? I very much suspect that I will be missing either the wiring to the head unit or the head unit functionality or both.
(Having said that, my Golf in poverty spec. lacks rear speakers, but has the wiring in situ)
thanks,
lex Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
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 24th Feb 2006 11:49 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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Without checking, I suspect you would need to fit the 2nd and 3rd row controls and loom, then get them enabled using T4 / WDS, it may also need the amplifier and IHU hardware upgrading. I believe the loom goes to the amp. not the IHU.
Just fitting the 3rd row controls would probably cause the infotainment system to have a hissy fit and throw your CD's out of it's pram... 
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| 24th Feb 2006 11:53 pm |
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Winger
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Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
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I don't think it would work....as the wiring won't be there.
Interesting about the Golf, ours doesn't even have the cabling.......
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| 24th Feb 2006 11:56 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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Generally, the Disco3 uses control signals to a ECU which then interprets the required action and provides the requested output, vehicles such as the golf use direct control, which is simpler but not as flexible. the Disco 3 also uses modular wiring looms which cuts down on cost and weight whereas the golf uses a composite loom, better for upgrades but increases the base cost and design complexity
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| 25th Feb 2006 12:01 am |
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grommet
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: Northern California
Posts: 331
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Yes, the rear audio jack/control looms seem to be wired to the Logic7 amplifier on my "Premium ICE" equipped vehicle. In North America, we don't get remote controls for the lower trim... so it's possible the Logic7 amplifier may be a technical requirement to allow it. Either that, or it's just a lot of painful work. 
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| 25th Feb 2006 12:15 am |
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leighmartin
Member Since: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Lancashire
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The Rear controls will only work if you have the full 'Logic 7' Premium sound system, as the audio amplifier is different. I have checked this out on the GTR website, and the 2 amps are different.
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| 25th Feb 2006 8:45 am |
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DrLex
Member Since: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Ciderspace [Oi be in Zummerset]
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Thanks everyone. Your replies confirmed my suspicions.
I will suggest to the rear seat travellers that they bring their own audio entertainment. This will undoubtedly result in a counter request for 2 ipods...  But that'll still be cheaper than a re-wire/re-amp, especially if I can get 1GB nanos.
For those who have suffered or fear heavy-handed abuse of their existing 3rd seat controls, there's a pair on ebay now that prompted my consideration. Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
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| 25th Feb 2006 10:12 am |
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BCP
Member Since: 25 May 2005
Location: East Scotland
Posts: 1464
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Have a bid running on these as a tidy way of providing rear headphone sockets for when we add a DVD.
BP (climber147 on ebay)
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| 25th Feb 2006 11:30 am |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
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But if you fit a DVD with FM modulator, you just tune your stereo into the required frequency, and play it through the car speakers. If the kids want to listen via headphones, they've probably already got a personal hifi/radio, and just tune this in. I brought a couple of personal FM radios with headphones for £2 each of a sunday market, and just leave these in the car. I dont care if they get abused for that price. Save the hassle of trying to wire in headphone sockets, and you dont have trailing headphone leads to worry about.
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