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They can be blanked with out removing any visual parts
22nd Jul 2012 8:07 pm
DeonvanderMerwe
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Fortunately no such tests in SA
22nd Jul 2012 8:08 pm
pinhead
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def90v8 wrote:
Hi just a word of warning egr functionality is to be added to the mot test if system parts are missing will deam to be a mot fail.
Can you post a link to vosa site where this can be found I have tried to search and all I can find is if eml light is lit
22nd Jul 2012 8:53 pm
disco_steve
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And how will a MOT tester find that parts are 'missing'
The EGR pipes etc are hidden under the engine cover and cannot be seen unless the cover is removed, remove the oil filler cap, and lift off the cover
This would contravene the MOT as 'no parts, permantly covers, ancilliary equipment, wheel etc shall be removed to allow access to other items without the customers consent, and it must be demonstrated that the cover is restricting the test being completed.
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22nd Jul 2012 9:12 pm
geoff.
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Hate to disagree Steve but you don't need to remove anything Or any cover to see the egr pipes are missing
Both egr flexi pipes can be seen from just standing at the front looking directly in to the engine bay just as they are attached to the valves.
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22nd Jul 2012 10:16 pm
pinhead
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I agree they will be seen to be missing
Just can't find in any mot special notices where not having them would constitute a failure
I am thinking this is just another Internet myth like the one that says can't de cat a deisel anymore
Mine passed the MOT in June with blanks in place and all pipework removed.Mark.
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23rd Jul 2012 7:41 am
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Yep, an internet myth triggered by a discussion paper a couple of years ago.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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pinhead wrote:
I agree they will be seen to be missing
Just can't find in any mot special notices where not having them would constitute a failure
I am thinking this is just another Internet myth like the one that says can't de cat a deisel anymore
Exhaust
A catalytic convertor fitted as original equipment but missing will be a reason for failure.
just google 2012 mot regs and your see the above
23rd Jul 2012 8:37 am
Robbie
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Geoff, nice try but it's still a myth!
Feel free to read your own google link as it does not apply to diesels, so don't quote the petrol regulations as it will make people worry for no good reason.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Robbie
if I've missed something please point it out to me
ps i couldn't give a toss whether or not cats are on or not same with egr blanking as its a couple of mods i do for people
23rd Jul 2012 9:33 am
geoff.
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Robbie your right
found this from vosa
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Thank you for your e-mail reply dated 19th December 2011, concerning new MOT test rules.
The fitment of a catalytic converter to petrol engine vehicles is mandatory for vehicles of the specified age and type e.g. passenger car, goods etc. The MOT Inspection Manual can therefore specify exactly what petrol engine vehicles must have a catalyst fitted.
However, whilst diesel engine vehicles are required to meet certain emissions limits for Type Approval, the method used to achieve this is not specified. It was left to the engine manufacturer to decide how to meet Euro 3, 4, 5 etc emissions standards.
For this reason, testers would be unable to readily determine which vehicles are OE fitted with a Diesel Oxidation Catalyst (DOC), Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) or Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) system.
It was therefore considered that the introduction of a Reason for Rejection for a missing diesel catalyst at this stage, whilst complying with the Directive, was likely to lead to many incorrect failures, which is clearly unacceptable.
The matter is under review and may therefore change in the future.
like i say i don't really care but its a grey area
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