LRD4GAB
Member Since: 05 Nov 2020
Location: Tamworth
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I'm looking into getting a power pack to keep in the car anymore got any reccomendations of one the have used ?
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jonno1
Member Since: 16 Jun 2010
Location: SW London
Posts: 718
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Would never recommend one in a million years, having had the battery pack both swell up and heat
up to the point where it was too hot to handle. Have since seen several other cooked examples.
All of these devices that contain cells are the same. Mine was in occasional use only was stored in the rear n/s cubby, just waiting for a hot Summer or two.
I then discovered this: Autowit Super Cap 2 and purchased it in November 2020
Knew nothing about them but understood the principles. Wouldn't be without it, used regularly even on my previous D4 prior to battery replacement.
Yes it takes a little longer BUT IT ALWAYS WORKS.
Mine sits in the same rear cubby for months on end but is always ready when needed.
No connection with this company but relieved to be equipped with a safer way to get myself or others out of trouble.
Unfortunately, now double the price on Amazon since I bought mine.
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| 9th Dec 2024 7:53 pm |
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UNG
Member Since: 20 Jun 2008
Location: Lancs
Posts: 773
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I have one of these https://www.topdon.com/products/jumpsurge3000
The couple of times I have used it it started the vehicle with a completely flat battery with no problem "Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag'em down to your level. It's cheaper".
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| 9th Dec 2024 7:59 pm |
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Oxford-boy
Member Since: 07 Sep 2015
Location: Oxford
Posts: 1122
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Have a Noco. Brilliant bit of kit. Used it for the D4 on the odd occasion and our other larger engine cars.
Not cheap but superb kit...
https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/noco-gb70-b...oSEALw_wcB
Thoroughly recommend.. Jim
2014 Discovery 4 XXV SDV6 Causeway Grey
2016 Discovery 4 HSE Lux SDV6 Loire Blue - now gone
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| 9th Dec 2024 9:22 pm |
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Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
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I've got that Noco and agree that it is a brilliant piece of kit.
One downside,though... on a camping trip I tried to use the Noco to charge my phone and it took about 8 hours to give it a decent charge. Not sure what was going on there, I'm guessing some smart electronics in the Noco that conflicted with the smart electronics in the phone. Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
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| 10th Dec 2024 6:11 am |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
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Same. NOCO GB70. Brilliant bit of kit  D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 10th Dec 2024 10:19 am |
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mark the spark
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: southampton
Posts: 2531
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yep those noco units are ace .... other makes seem pretty good as well MY05 SE D3 Manual my first LR what a car
MY10 HSE D4 auto
MY14 XXV more buttons than the spaceshuttle
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| 10th Dec 2024 10:41 am |
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KPTV8
Member Since: 05 Feb 2012
Location: Itinerant !! (Scotland/Donegal)
Posts: 192
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So, there are two main technologies in use here - Li-Ion battiers, and electrolytic capacitors.
We've all heard of (and some experienced) the DREADFUL and unstoppable consequences when the former exhibit "thermal runaway", or when the cells are physically damaged exposing the lithium.
The latter technology is generally less compact than Li-Ion, but involves much reduced fire risk. Capacitors CAN cause damage if wrongly discharged, but this is typically an instantaneous flashover (big SPARK) with no prolonged fire. There is almost zero overheating risk.
Capacitors will typically hold their charge for a shorter duration (several weeks, instead of months as with Li-Ion).
My Li-Ion booster pack has done good service and I'm happy enough, but I carry a little NIGGLE of concern about fire risk. When I next update my booster & dead-battery solution, I'll be installing a capacitor-based device kept on constant trickle charge from the car's 12v supply.
(BTW my overview above may be out of date - is based on studying the subject 8 years ago).
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| 10th Dec 2024 5:23 pm |
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Oxford-boy
Member Since: 07 Sep 2015
Location: Oxford
Posts: 1122
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Get a NOCO... you won't regret it. Jim
2014 Discovery 4 XXV SDV6 Causeway Grey
2016 Discovery 4 HSE Lux SDV6 Loire Blue - now gone
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| 10th Dec 2024 7:30 pm |
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ruffy
Member Since: 05 Feb 2015
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 62
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+1 for Noco. Got us out of difficult situations a couple of times. 2007 V8 S
1981 88” diesel GONE
2007 FFRR TDV8 Overfinch GONE
2000 Defender 90 TD5 GONE
2007 FFRR 4.2 Supercharged GONE
2009 Discovery TDV6 S GONE
1990 RR 3.9 V8 VSE GONE
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| 11th Dec 2024 10:46 am |
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BrumLee
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1367
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I bought the Gooloo GP4000 three years ago and I'm well impressed. Starts up to 10L diesel engines, which makes it one of the best portable jump packs on the market.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GOOLOO-Portable-L...1&th=1 Faultmate MSV2 EXTREME
FOXWELL N624 Elite
Hantek 1008c Oscilloscope
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| 11th Dec 2024 6:34 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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Another vote for Noco, I have the GBX45, as I currently have 3.0 & 4.4 diesels.
I have a Halfords trade card which gives you a decent discount. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 11th Dec 2024 7:13 pm |
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astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: MIDLANDS
Posts: 8147
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Another +1 for Noco.
Man enough to start a single cylinder diesel narrow boat engine, imagine the torque on that 
Check Amazon, they’ve had a few deals where higher spec one is discounted to be cheaper than lower models. I’d just bought one when a discount deal came out so I returned mine and reordered the higher spec one
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| 11th Dec 2024 7:36 pm |
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Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
Posts: 415
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One of the best things about having the NoCo in the car is that it saves so much pfaffing about when someone else is needing help. instead of all that manoeuvering to get your car battery near enough for your jump leads to reach, you just walk over with the NoCo and do the job! Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
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| 12th Dec 2024 7:16 am |
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HairyFool
Member Since: 04 Jan 2023
Location: North Essex
Posts: 704
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Worms wrote:I've got that Noco and agree that it is a brilliant piece of kit.
One downside,though... on a camping trip I tried to use the Noco to charge my phone and it took about 8 hours to give it a decent charge. Not sure what was going on there, I'm guessing some smart electronics in the Noco that conflicted with the smart electronics in the phone.
The basic USB spec only allowed 7.5w power delivery and Apple incoporated propriatory signally methods to indicate to the device what the charger was capable of.
If the phone doesn't get the right feedback from the charging device to indicate that it is capable to deliver more then some phones will restrict the charging current to the very slow basic spec. A visitor from the dark side, my other vehicle is an is still an EV. Strictly speaking its SWMBO.
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