Member Since: 05 Aug 2017
Location: Wiltshire
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Car was imported and sold by WR CAR Sales in Bradford.
Really, totally honest experience, I have nothing negative to say about them.
I did see a few cars at other dealers but this one was by far the best condition.
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12th Sep 2024 8:55 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14382
I saw that. It was the colour that put me off.
Nice though. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
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12th Sep 2024 10:17 pm
KPTV8
Member Since: 05 Feb 2012
Location: Itinerant !! (Scotland/Donegal)
Posts: 186
I would SO like to know if my 5L V8 D4 is or is not at high risk of an engine wreck due to failed chain tensioners. I've read that the tensioner design or material was uprated at some point for these engines because chains broke or came off.
Any pointer would be very welcome ?
My VIN is SALLAJAD3AA522101
Engine runs smoothly, slight ticking noise at idle, bit like the sound from a badly adjusted tappet on an old push-rod engine.
With my thanks
12th Sep 2024 10:48 pm
itsaguything
Member Since: 20 Dec 2023
Location: Manotick, On
Posts: 252
Well done @Heliart!2015 LR4 HSE Lux Aintree Green
2013 LR2 HSE Radiance Red
2007 XKR Jaguar Racing Green
2005 XJR Jaguar Racing Green
2002 S-Type R British Racing Green
12th Sep 2024 11:48 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6748
KPTV8 wrote:
I would SO like to know if my 5L V8 D4 is or is not at high risk of an engine wreck due to failed chain tensioners. I've read that the tensioner design or material was uprated at some point for these engines because chains broke or came off.
Any pointer would be very welcome ?
My VIN is SALLAJAD3AA522101
Engine runs smoothly, slight ticking noise at idle, bit like the sound from a badly adjusted tappet on an old push-rod engine.
Member Since: 05 Aug 2017
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 33
Land Rover did changed the tensioner and chain guide design around 2013-2014 but I don't thank that ever made it into the Disco production runs as the engine was discontinues on the Disco4 prior to that FWIK.
I've seen some mention that you could run a borescope down the oil fill opening to read the PN of the chain guide, but after being inside the front cover I'm really not sure how practical that would be.
https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/5-0l-t...od.335252/ A fairly simple way to tell is fish a bore cam through the oil fill spout towards either the LH guide or tensioner and hunt for the part number stamped on its side. You don't have to see all of it, just the starting two alpha characters. It they are not "FX" you have the old tensioners and guides
As you can see on my previous post, the chain guide on mine only had a small indent (maybe 2mm). I've seen much worse talked about, but my chain was certainly slack at TDC.
Here's a short clip of mine. You could hear the slap clearly with the engine idling.
https://youtu.be/J3IjR6gaKko
The design change consists of a new chain guide with a steel butt where the tensioner piston locates against the guide, but more importantly there's a new tensioner with a wider piston end, and it sits at a slightly different angle. It looks to me to give improved push on the chain.
As to what fails? There's lots of info on the Jag forums where this engine is very well known. I don't think there's been any cases of actual chain snap, but you would start to see some timing codes from the ECU as the slackness increases. Could it jump a tooth? Maybe? There's cases where the chain slap has broken the chain oiler (which could well lead to a catastrophic failure).
13th Sep 2024 7:54 am
Duc750
Member Since: 07 Aug 2017
Location: northampton
Posts: 314
Model year 2012 had some significant updates to tensioners i believe05 D3 V8 HSE, LR Passion tree bars, wildbear compressor guard, LRP switch panel, ARB rear locker + compressor, Trigger 6 shooter electrical system
12 RRS SDV6 HSE (Hers) - Gone and replaced with an I Pace - I can tell you now EV is not the future yet
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13th Sep 2024 9:18 am
Heliart
Member Since: 05 Aug 2017
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 33
Quote:
Model year 2012 had some significant updates to tensioners i believe
Actually I don't think so. There was a post somewhere from a Land Rover tech talking about the rollout of the change into the factory. I think the new tensioner and guides might have been available sooner, but the factory cut in was much later. The 2014 Disco4 was no longer offered with the V8, hence I really don't think any production models had the new design!
13th Sep 2024 9:48 am
KPTV8
Member Since: 05 Feb 2012
Location: Itinerant !! (Scotland/Donegal)
Posts: 186
BIG Thanks !!
Hi, just a mention of BIG thanks for several very valuable pointers above re. potential vulnerability of my 5L engine to timing chain malfunction.
Cheers, very grateful to all ))
14th Sep 2024 3:37 pm
Duc750
Member Since: 07 Aug 2017
Location: northampton
Posts: 314
Heliart wrote:
Quote:
Model year 2012 had some significant updates to tensioners i believe
Actually I don't think so. There was a post somewhere from a Land Rover tech talking about the rollout of the change into the factory. I think the new tensioner and guides might have been available sooner, but the factory cut in was much later. The 2014 Disco4 was no longer offered with the V8, hence I really don't think any production models had the new design!
I have a vague recollection the PN is different for guides and tensioner on a 2012 MY. I think that PN was an upgrade for pre MY2012. To be honest its a while since I looked at this as we were looking to buy a vehicle for a trip in the US in 2020 and then sell it afterward. I'll have to see if I've still got the info I was sent as it may have been on my work account at that time. They did say it wasn't a total fix but much better.
To be honest having spent years with Honda and BMW mototorbikes on the personal fleet I kind of view camchains and tensioners as consumable items anyway05 D3 V8 HSE, LR Passion tree bars, wildbear compressor guard, LRP switch panel, ARB rear locker + compressor, Trigger 6 shooter electrical system
12 RRS SDV6 HSE (Hers) - Gone and replaced with an I Pace - I can tell you now EV is not the future yet
Metalian Camper trailer
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