Member Since: 12 Jan 2021
Location: Enfield
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Tyre cracking
The Pirelli scorpions on my 2016 car have developed some cracking as per photo. The tyres seem to be from a 2017 batch. It passed the MOT a few weeks back and tread depth is 4-5mm. Worth changing sooner rather than later? Haven’t seen this on a tyre before.
Kind regards, Peter
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18th Mar 2024 6:13 pm
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I've given up with Pirelli. Not very good any more.Richard
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18th Mar 2024 6:18 pm
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And yes, get them changed before they break up during driving. Their useful life is behind them.Defender 110 SE 2021, Tasman Blue
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18th Mar 2024 6:21 pm
GrumpyPenguin
Member Since: 06 Mar 2024
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Re: Tyre cracking
pjlcar wrote:
Worth changing sooner rather than later?
I'd change them immediately.
If they are all like that (& the defects are all round the tyres) I'd keep the old ones & take it up with Pirelli.
19th Mar 2024 12:09 am
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
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When I had an issue with Pirelli tyres, they were very interested and even went so far as to say they would arrange for one to be sent to them.Gary
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19th Mar 2024 9:31 am
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Re: Tyre cracking
GrumpyPenguin wrote:
pjlcar wrote:
Worth changing sooner rather than later?
I'd change them immediately.
If they are all like that (& the defects are all round the tyres) I'd keep the old ones & take it up with Pirelli.
What 7yo tyres. That is typical of tyres that have been out in the sun all day over a seven year period .
19th Mar 2024 9:46 am
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Change them. You'e driving a 3 tonne brick with a complex transmission system and the the bit that ties you to the road is never worth skimming on. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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19th Mar 2024 10:17 am
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I concur with most. You got your monies worth by having 7 years with tires. Not to mention they are severely worn and probably hydroplane easily now.
Get on with it and replace them so I don’t have to read a thread about a mishap when a tire blew.
FWIW, I replace 2 sets of tires on 3 vehicles nearly every 5 years. I wouldn’t take the chance.2015 LR4 HSE Lux Aintree Green
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19th Mar 2024 12:33 pm
DaveJLBI
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If they are perished enough to crack, they are probably brittle and certainly not worth the risk.
But, oh the envy of having a 2016 D4 with low enough miles to be on original tyres!
You could have the vehicle parked up when someone runs into it. Once the insurance assessor spots the tyres you will be uninsured and there will be no payout. Police will have same opinion and will probably send you to court.
It is very unfair with caravan and trailer tyres that must be replaced within 7 years of manufacture even though they could have done very limited mileage and have virtually no wear.A vaccine does not stop you catching a virus, or passing it on, or getting ill from it, really ill. It does reduce the likelyhood of you dying when really, really ill. Stay Alive - KEEP AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
19th Mar 2024 4:05 pm
pjlcar
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Thanks for all of the advice, which I will definitely heed. I’m feeling very lucky that nothing happened on my way home on the A1M last night at motorway speeds. The car will stay on the drive til until it’s sorted next week. I managed to pick up a brand new 20” style 510 alloy a few weeks back that was going cheap and I had a new Pirelli tyre fitted. It’s a genuine grey/diamond cut wheel rather than the usual black/diamond cut but will be ok for the time being. The spare wheel/tyre is good too, so I’ve got an immediate solution that will allow me to drive the car. I’ll then get the two original alloys refurbed as there’s a bit of alloy corrosion, plus add new tyres and I should be all good to go again.
Thanks again for the replies and advice. It’s much appreciated.
Peter
19th Mar 2024 6:02 pm
GrumpyPenguin
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Navigator wrote:
It is very unfair with caravan and trailer tyres that must be replaced within 7 years of manufacture even though they could have done very limited mileage and have virtually no wear.
I have covered considerable miles using trailers (all twin axel) and only ever had to replace tyres that had actually worn out on one - an IW dropside which had 10" wheels and I used to get around 7/8k out of a set.
Other trailers have suffered cracking (from UV exposure on one side only) within about five years - replaced & rendered unusable as soon as cracks appear.
19th Mar 2024 8:53 pm
HairyFool
Member Since: 04 Jan 2023
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Navigator wrote:
You could have the vehicle parked up when someone runs into it. Once the insurance assessor spots the tyres you will be uninsured and there will be no payout. Police will have same opinion and will probably send you to court.
It is very unfair with caravan and trailer tyres that must be replaced within 7 years of manufacture even though they could have done very limited mileage and have virtually no wear.
That is not strictly true. Insurers can only refuse a claim if the defect has a direct bearing on the incident. They can however withdraw cover after settlement due to failing to maintain the vehicle in a safe condition and in accordance with manufacturer guidelines.
Drivrs are assumed to have little knowledge on the technical aspects of their vehicle so we are expected to follow the handbook. From the D4 owners manual
"All of the vehicle's tyres, including the spare, should be checked regularly for damage, wear, and distortion. If in any doubt about the condition of a tyre, have it checked immediately by a tyre repair centre or a retailer/authorised repairer."
The manufacturers guidelines are tyres should be good for at least 7 years and after that point should have regular inspection and replaced after 10 years even if they appear undamaged.
I bought a 20 year old Motorhome some time ago which had the original tyres on the front (and some awful far eastern balloons on the back). Most of the boundary between the tread face and the sidewalls had a fine crack all the way round so had to go. The spare however lived up inside the skirt of the motorhome and never saw the light of day so was absolutely pristine, evidence that it is primarily sunlight and more specifically UV that causes deterioration.A visitor from the dark side, my other vehicle is an is still an EV. Strictly speaking its SWMBO.
19th Mar 2024 10:48 pm
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We had to change the tyres on our horse trailer simply because the sidewalls had deteriorated thanks to UV exposure over time. Tread, etc., was all fine otherwise.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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20th Mar 2024 12:00 am
pjlcar
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Thanks again for the advice. New Pirelli Scorpion tyres now fitted along with Wrington wheel nuts to smarten things up Kind regards, Peter.
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