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Brian Considine
Member Since: 05 Dec 2022
Location: Nr Margate
Posts: 280
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Moo wrote:Brian Considine wrote:I don't care how "awful" they are, I still want one !
I think here is therapy and medication to help you get over that. 
You need to know that I used to have a IIB Forward Control Fire Appliance and would drive it to shows 200 miles away so I don't think any amount of treatment would get me over that - I am beyound help !
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 2nd Dec 2023 10:46 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23819
 
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astonbuilder wrote:There’s the view of two of the wise monkeys….
My comment was tongue in cheek actually.
Even with the extended seat rails that you can buy, I can’t fit in one to safely drive, let alone be comfortable.
They are endearing and nostalgic etc. in that they really have changed very little over the years, hence why they feel horrendous to drive in comparison to contemporary vehicles.
I do believe that they are an iconic vehicle in many ways. As a classic fun vehicle to work on yourself and enjoy for fun journeys, or used as they were originally designed to be, they are brilliant.
I know lots of farmers who still run them daily, but almost all of them will use another vehicle if they have to make a long road journey. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 2nd Dec 2023 10:57 am |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13538
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Re: farmers, one of my acquaintance has a Kubota for going around pheasants, checking sheep, etc., a 90 for towing a livestock trailer, a small trailer on shoot days, etc., and a Hyundai SUV thing for normal driving.
In that context, they make sense to me.  Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 2nd Dec 2023 11:14 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23819
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They were originally designed as an agricultural/workhorse vehicle. One of the very first pieces of optional equipment available for the Series Land Rover was the rear PTO.
As they evolved so little, comparisons with contemporary vehicles such as pickups is a bit pointless, in my opinion.
If they suit your needs/requirements and you like them…………
ETA- How Gareth and others here, use their Series/Defenders and the pleasure they get from them is wonderful. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 2nd Dec 2023 11:44 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23819
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RRSTDV8 wrote:Re: farmers, one of my acquaintance has a Kubota for going around pheasants, checking sheep, etc., a 90 for towing a livestock trailer, a small trailer on shoot days, etc., and a Hyundai SUV thing for normal driving.
In that context, they make sense to me.
Such a variety of vehicles is common on most of the farms I visit.
I did witness a brand new FFRR towing a livestock trailer this week though. For the very reason that the farmer had a 250 round trip to make to collect a couple of Rams and he wasn’t going to do that in his 90. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 2nd Dec 2023 11:48 am |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13538
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When I was young, I shared the driving with a mate as we took a Series 2 to Germany. It was fun then but we drove with the canvas off and it was fun. I'm older and more sensible these days.
I drive the 90 on shoot days now and then, and for a few minutes it's doable. But I've seen people in suits commuting along motorways in them and that is just beyond my ken. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 2nd Dec 2023 12:55 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23819
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When I first started driving in 1981, Land Rovers weren’t so archaic.
Back then, if you had electric front windows, a cigarette lighter and a “stereo”
radio/cassette player (which my Austin Maxi did) it was revolutionary.
I had to use a manual choke, until I got my first Vauxhall Astra.
And that’s my point, the Defender barely evolved at all. Which is what appeals to its fans.
If it ain’t broke….. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 2nd Dec 2023 1:20 pm |
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Gareth
Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26772
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LT wrote:
ETA- How Gareth and others here, use their Series/Defenders and the pleasure they get from them is wonderful.
Cheers. I still use my 2a regularly - in fact I’m currently building a replacement engine for her! 28 years and I still enjoy it a lot. It’s very satisfying to drive smoothly. Once you have cracked the double de-clutch and the non synchro gears, it becomes a symphony of mechanical perfection! On the other hand, it’s staying put today, it’s too bloomin cold 🥶
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| 2nd Dec 2023 2:14 pm |
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HairyFool
Member Since: 04 Jan 2023
Location: North Essex
Posts: 672
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It was a toss up between a Deepender and a Disco as the tug for the van.
I was tending to the former, somehow I could work out the boss' opininion without even asking! A visitor from the dark side, my other vehicle is an is still an EV. Strictly speaking its SWMBO.
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| 2nd Dec 2023 3:54 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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They are iconic and characterful but by the time I’ve finished driving one the novelty has most definitely worn off.
I’ll stick with my modern pretender  it’s on coils, that’s about as archaic as I’m willing to go. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 8th Dec 2023 9:11 pm |
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