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pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
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Looks like we will need to pay a visit to the Motorhome and Caravan show .....
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 1st Oct 2023 12:45 pm |
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DIY Ace
Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Hampshire
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Quite. I have it in my diary already, not sure which day I'm going to head up but if you are going too, let me know which day. Happy to say hello and get a second opinion on my impulsive purchases...
Reckon a midweek day is best to avoid the crowds. 2022 BMW i4 M50. Bought Oct 2022. 10,200 miles and counting...
2014 BMW 435d convertible. Bought July 2021. 58,000 miles and counting...
2005 Discovery 3 HSE Auto. Bought Feb 2019. 169,000 miles and counting...
2009 Freelander 2 XS Manual. Bought Sep 2013. SOLD Aug 2021 (already regretted!)
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| 1st Oct 2023 2:39 pm |
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Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
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DIY Ace wrote:... i plan on doing a fair bit of solo travel too...
For that you could just sleep in the back of the D3!  Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
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| 1st Oct 2023 2:48 pm |
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pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2588
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DIY Ace wrote:Quite. I have it in my diary already, not sure which day I'm going to head up but if you are going too, let me know which day. Happy to say hello and get a second opinion on my impulsive purchases...
Reckon a midweek day is best to avoid the crowds.
Have booked for the Sunday which is the only day I can do. Not ideal I know. In Copenhagen at the begining of the week and Exmoor on the Friday for a Honda Off Road Adventure day so hopefully not too bruised .
Here's a voucher CCCWEB ... saves a few quid unless you go on the Friday (saves a little more)
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| 1st Oct 2023 6:00 pm |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10351
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A couple of comments from me. We have always had caravans as the space and fixtures & fittings have been what we like, but from last year quite a few sites (especially in France) won’t take large twin axle caravan any longer.
At the other end we have close friends who have a VW camper (only about 3years old) who have realised it’s too small and doesn’t have the things they need to be comfortable, as whilst they look great on a pitch with the sun shining brightly, on a wet windy afternoon in Yorkshire it’s a different story.
So go have a look and think about how it works for you under the most miserable weather conditions then everything else is a plus.
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| 2nd Oct 2023 7:25 am |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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Have you thought about converting a van? It's much cheaper and you get what you want. I've converted a Renault Master 17 seat minibus into a camper van. I've built a better interior than you'll get in any camper, I can stand up in it, it has a large double bet permanently made up, a diesel heater that is brilliant and I have almost limitless power 12v and 240v with a 3kw inverter. I just need to add in the kitchen and its finished, but its usable now. I'm hoping to go away next weekend gravel riding in the New Forest in it.
It's not fast and at the moment the outside looks like a  van but it's cost me £7k and I can escape in it with my bike or SWMBO whenever. Also, I don't need to worry about it.
I was at Malvern Caravan and Camper show at the weekend and was rather taken with a Tribe VW T6 camper conversion. My thinking was to combine my camper van and Defender into just one vehicle but not sure I want to spend £82k on it! Really cool though and superbly built. 
I'm also thinking of a roof tent and camping set up in my Defender. Not sure my wife is on the same page with that! 
As for caravans, we have a vintage Colchester that is really cool and cute, that has been used once in two years and costs £800 a year in dry storage.  Its great fun when we use it, but thats the crux, we never seem to have the time. 
I wish you well with what you decide, its all a conundrum. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
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D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
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| 2nd Oct 2023 8:35 am |
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mark the spark
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: southampton
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If your fit able and the hooking up and towing not an issue its got to be a caravan ,loads more space and once your on site then you have the freedon of having your car . and of course great justification for having a disco 
im a long term caravaner and can never understand the point of a motorhome unless of course for any of the above for perhaps medical or age reasons then yes i get it .
my friend had a van for years and recently swapped to a motorhome and very much regrets it and is now looking at small cars to tow behind ..His wife was a very nervous passenger hence the swap but he finds now he goes out far less than they did because of the inflexibility.
A campervan however is a slightly different thing and great id say for the odd weekend or pitching up in a carpark for days out,but wow the cost is ridiculous theres a saes place near me with a load of newish but still second hand VW cmapervans all lined up with prices from 60-85 K !! £30K-40K gets you a pretty tidy D4 and van combo and for my thinking represents far better value for money MY05 SE D3 Manual my first LR what a car
MY10 HSE D4 auto
MY14 XXV more buttons than the spaceshuttle
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| 2nd Oct 2023 8:57 am |
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Ivan
Member Since: 01 Mar 2011
Location: Malvern Worcestershire
Posts: 690
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Just been away for the weekend in my Caravan. Whilst there saw a couple of Cathargo motorhomes parked up near us. The homes must have cost over £100,00 each. But, they still had to tow a car around for when they arrived at the site as they didn't want to have to pack up every time they went anywhere. I just pulled up in the Rangie unhooked and that was me for the weekend. I had the car to run around in and didn't have to pack the caravan until we left on Sunday. It also fitted under the barriers at a number of car parks.
You don't need to be fit to move the caravan, just fit a motor mover. I also frequently pass Motorhomes/Camper vans on the motorway as they seem to be so under powered that they have trouble going over 60 Mph. The Rangie pulls the van with ease and is very nice to be in.
Ivan 2013 RR Vogue SE SDV8
2013 Freelander 2 HSE Luxury SD4
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| 2nd Oct 2023 9:28 am |
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pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2588
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I keep coming back to this which I think is a steal at the price.
https://www.rollerteammotorhomes.co.uk/pegaso-745
The caravan and car is a good consideration but I'm just worried about limitations. With early retirement considerations looming I would like to just head off for 3months at a time, maybe abroad, and I'm curious if the caravan combination would be more restrictive.
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| 2nd Oct 2023 11:27 am |
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Gareth
Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26772
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The future surely must be to move towards camper vans? Electrification means it will be much less practical to tow a caravan. Electric camper vans are already on the way.
I think many campsites could start hiring out small electric cars for people to use whilst staying there.
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| 2nd Oct 2023 12:06 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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I have been caravanning for over 20 years so have a good idea what is what with them.
However I think you have missed a key part and that is what exactly are you going to use it for and where.
If you are touring an area and only stopping in one place for a night or two then a camper would be best.
If you are going to Europe and staying in one place with no days out etc then a caravan would be best.
If you are doing a lot of touring in areas where the roads are single tracks then a camper would be better.
As others have said I would suggest hiring each to see how you get on. We brought an old caravan when we started and ran it for 12 months to see how we got on and it worked really well with young kids as we didnt tend to travel around instead stayed in one place for a week at a time as a rule.
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Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
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| 2nd Oct 2023 3:02 pm |
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Canburne
Member Since: 15 Jan 2013
Location: Devon
Posts: 2036
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I am surprised no-one has said it already but the only better towing vehicle in the world than a D3, is a D4.... .
"the inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings....the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" Winston Churchill
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| 2nd Oct 2023 5:38 pm |
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DIY Ace
Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 971
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pjm-84 wrote:I keep coming back to this which I think is a steal at the price.
https://www.rollerteammotorhomes.co.uk/pegaso-745
The caravan and car is a good consideration but I'm just worried about limitations. With early retirement considerations looming I would like to just head off for 3months at a time, maybe abroad, and I'm curious if the caravan combination would be more restrictive.
Wow! That's a smart home. I'd be happy living in that for as long as needed. A bit pricey for my needs, mind you... 2022 BMW i4 M50. Bought Oct 2022. 10,200 miles and counting...
2014 BMW 435d convertible. Bought July 2021. 58,000 miles and counting...
2005 Discovery 3 HSE Auto. Bought Feb 2019. 169,000 miles and counting...
2009 Freelander 2 XS Manual. Bought Sep 2013. SOLD Aug 2021 (already regretted!)
https://youtube.com/channel/UCO_u_0D45x9KGfiNstzLJnw
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| 2nd Oct 2023 6:14 pm |
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DIY Ace
Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 971
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Russell wrote:
However I think you have missed a key part and that is what exactly are you going to use it for and where.
If you are touring an area and only stopping in one place for a night or two then a camper would be best.
If you are going to Europe and staying in one place with no days out etc then a caravan would be best.
If you are doing a lot of touring in areas where the roads are single tracks then a camper would be better.
Unhelpfully, all of the above! They'll be a mix of short 1 or 2 night breakaways, either with or without the wife and kids, and inevitably some longer stay aways at sites for a week or more both in and out of the UK.
I reckon this is the best I've seen so far. They don't make it in 6 berth any more, but can find a few nearly new second hand. I could remove the 5th and 6th bunk and put something more useful in that space - more storage perhaps. It's not the most luxurious but very well laid out (I love the rear door) and practical with options for 1, 2, 3 or 4, berth very easily. Also not too big, so lighter weight for when travelling alone. https://granthamcaravans.co.uk/model/carav...mp-6-2022/ 2022 BMW i4 M50. Bought Oct 2022. 10,200 miles and counting...
2014 BMW 435d convertible. Bought July 2021. 58,000 miles and counting...
2005 Discovery 3 HSE Auto. Bought Feb 2019. 169,000 miles and counting...
2009 Freelander 2 XS Manual. Bought Sep 2013. SOLD Aug 2021 (already regretted!)
https://youtube.com/channel/UCO_u_0D45x9KGfiNstzLJnw
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| 2nd Oct 2023 6:22 pm |
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