Cleaner air. Now who could complain about that?I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
1st Nov 2023 10:01 am
disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
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Cleaner air. Now who could complain about that?
Depends I suppose on how much cleaner the air gets and at what cost. I have lived in London for a long time and I haven't noticed any difference in the air quality since the ULEZ was introduced. The air seems very clean to me, and I grew up in the countryside and spend a lot of time there too. The real noticeable improvement in air quality came with the introduction of things like unleaded petrol, catalytic converters, DPFs, and getting rid of the old diesel TFL buses that belched soot everywhere they went. The London Underground is what gives me black bogies and makes my hair and clothes go dirty very quickly. You can often see the haze looking down the length of the platform from airborne particles, which is particularly bad on the central, picadilly, northern lines.
If it was a case of minute improvement to air quality at zero cost, fine. Or really significant improvement to air quality at some or even great cost, fine. But it's not. So 'who would complain about that' is easily answered really.
1st Nov 2023 10:32 am
Brian Considine
Member Since: 05 Dec 2022
Location: Nr Margate
Posts: 280
[quote="DG"]
Trailered Movements wrote:
Even then, they were Diesel hybrid...only now are they being converted to electric. Much cheaper electric buses were available, this was a total vanity project by the proven liar.
Until he retired a few years a go a friend of mine was General manager of one of the London Bus Garages. They had 10 fully electric buses on trial about the same time as the Boris Buses were being intoduced - they (the EB's) were lucky to have a 50% availability rate.
I really don't know why they have not re-introduced trolley buses's - they are pretty common in europe & of course use proven technology.
1st Nov 2023 10:32 am
Brian Considine
Member Since: 05 Dec 2022
Location: Nr Margate
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black bogies
Shows what our own filtration system stops going into our lungs (a point I was making to Jay).
1st Nov 2023 10:36 am
Brian Considine
Member Since: 05 Dec 2022
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gstuart wrote:
The increase of London’s Ultra Low Emissions Zone (ULEZ) to cover the whole of the outer London area generated an extra £23.6m in revenue between its launch on August 29 and September 30. That’s according to BBC analysis of the latest data released by Transport for London (TfL).
In the first month of the expanded ULEZ operation, just over 57,000 drivers paid the £12.50 daily charge levied for entering the newly controlled areas in vehicles that were not ULEZ compliant. That broadly means diesel cars built before around 2016 and petrol cars built before around 2006 - although there are exceptions to this.
Nearly £3B in a year for KhansKoffers, less the running costs paid to Crapita - probably a nice, but diminishing return.
I can just imagine the conversation in khans vacated office in a few years time ;
Mr Mayour - we are loosing money on the ULEZ zones, we are paying Crapita more to run the schemes than we get.
Oh dear, better get Crapita to reprogramme the cameras we have left for pay as you drive.
1st Nov 2023 10:42 am
disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
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Shows what our own filtration system stops going into our lungs (a point I was making to Jay).
Yes it does, although I'm pretty sure my nose hair is not thick enough to stop much more than a tiny proportion of the tube dust from entering my throat and lungs, sadly.
1st Nov 2023 10:43 am
fat bloke
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 1257
Considering they were going to cancel today's cricket match in Delhi as air was bad they barred any construction work etc. They said the air was 508 parts etc and London's average is 21 so says it all who needs ulez more he ought to stand for mayor of Delhi and see how long he lasts ??
As a muslim in Delhi? How quick are you with stopwatch start/stop buttons?I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
7th Nov 2023 9:56 am
Brian Considine
Member Since: 05 Dec 2022
Location: Nr Margate
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As an slight aside from ULEZ but concerning Totally Failed London I see that uncle Rishi is bringing in legislation to control those rickshaw pedi/thingies in London & TfL have offered to adminsiter it - clearly, they have sniffed out more money to raise & squander.
7th Nov 2023 10:42 am
Moo D3 Decade
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Those rickshaws are a menace! I'm really happy for Rishi and TFL to tax and licence them out of existence!D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
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Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
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D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
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7th Nov 2023 2:48 pm
gstuart
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31st Mar 2024 6:31 am
gstuart
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Thought the pm couldn’t stop this , ref ulez expansion
They also set out their “Backing Drivers Bill” which would ban Wales-style blanket 20mph limits and reversing the Ultra Low Emission Zone (Ulez) expansion from inner into outer London.
Member Since: 03 Oct 2018
Location: Kent
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If they were going todo it they should have done it before it came in its the death bells of a finished tosser incharge of tossers tossing us all over.
8th Jun 2024 7:25 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14177
Plus 1 , think they are really trying to scrape the barrel in finding new things to add to their manifesto that appeals to the general public
See that reform are also doing quiet well , some reports of them being a few points ahead
At the end of the day will be interesting to see what labour do to this country over the next few years, they are claiming to sort out the high car insurance
Won’t hold my breath and never known a time of having such poor candidates to choose from
8th Jun 2024 7:30 pm
Moo D3 Decade
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There are too many tossers tossing us off with promises that the tossers will never deliver or can't deliver. Reform's chief tosser is a case in point! There's fantasy and sound bites and then there is reality!D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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