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Overlanding tyres??
Hi all,
I use my truck ‘off road’ quite a bit but mainly on rough stone or unmade tracks. I rarely go onto anything approaching mud terrain…
I don’t therefore need (or want) full off road tyres capable of dealing with lots of wet and boggy ground.
So my question is, what is considered to be a good 19 inch overlanding tyre? I currently run standard Goodyear Duratrac which are nice and quiet on road and reasonably robust but which are prone to cuts on rough stone tracks. I drive 90% on road and 10% off (annual mileage 30k pa).
Any suggestions or recommendations?
18th Oct 2021 6:51 am
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
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I am afraid that on rocks the rim size you use is the problem too, regarding the cuts you talked about..
Try 18” rims and a high wall tyre, and you will be better of…. ImhoBest regards
Harold
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18th Oct 2021 8:04 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
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ATRs, as seen here back in the day, for exactly that use.
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No idea if still available though.
18th Oct 2021 8:09 am
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6400
Duratracks do very well as well
I also like Cooper Tyres Discoverer AT3 Sport 2 111H
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18th Oct 2021 8:34 am
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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Works well on road (I have them on my RRS and they can be driven quite sportingly if one wishes), they seem to be robust with some sidewall protection in the form of large bumps around the shoulder region. Also have the benefit of being winter rated (3PMSF symbol on the sidewall) should that be a requirement.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
18th Oct 2021 8:40 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
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If as good as ATRs they would get my big 👍 .
18th Oct 2021 8:44 am
NC500
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Great - thanks everyone for your input!!
18th Oct 2021 11:47 am
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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The General Grabber AT3 is also worth considering.
Been running them on my D4 for over two years now, great for both on and off road.
My off road driving now mainly consists of forest tracks and these can have big chunks of loose hardcore to facilitate the heavily loaded logging lorries.
All been great ……. so far. ...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
18th Oct 2021 12:03 pm
robsta
Member Since: 19 Mar 2011
Location: La Lucia, Durban
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Photos from Lesotho, at 12000' above sea level on Pirelli ATR's....
So on my 5th LandRover, 3 have been Disco 3 and then 2x Disco 4 At the moment i am in the D4 V8, and never happier. About 2 years ago I posted the same about tires as I live in South Africa. So plenty of off roading, lots of visits to Mozambique so always on the beach and driving in Sand. More recently I have been in Lesotho with ice and snow, ant the Pirelli ATR's have never failed there either....although they don't really like ice too much, the terrain response fixed that. I tried the Copper ATT's, and they were ok, but very uncomfortable on tar. If I could say, the Pirelli ATR, (my 5th Set) is still the winner for the Disco 3 / 4Previously Freelander II
Previously '08 Disco 3 TDV6 SE
Previously '10 Disco4 TDV / SDV6 HSE
Now: '12 Freelander II SD4 HSE -
Now '11 Disco4 V8 HSE
18th Oct 2021 12:09 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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I had the ATR many years ago on my RRS and was impressed by them. Sadly, in the UK at least, they don't seem to be available in 19 inch anymore.
The Grabber AT3 is also a good tyre. Had those before the Pirelli AT+. Did a couple of days off road in Wales on worn AT3 and they did gain some side wall cuts. One went down to the chords. As they were nearing replacement that wasn't too painful as the outlay was planned for already.
I'm increasingly of the opinion that Disco / RRS sized AT tyres are all pretty similar and the choice is really down to availability, price, and personal aesthetic preference. Sure, one tyre will be a bit better in mud, another better on tarmac, another better in snow but overall they're much of a muchness.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
18th Oct 2021 12:27 pm
NC500
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18th Oct 2021 12:30 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
Pirelli ATR's still showing as available in 255-60-18, which is the size I ran on my D4 (Compomotive 18" rims). Best all round tyre for my use.
2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
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18th Oct 2021 3:48 pm
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
Location: Surrey / SW London
Posts: 2138
Duratracs, get them from Costco when on offer
Current: D4 HSE
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18th Oct 2021 6:04 pm
leeds
Member Since: 30 Aug 2010
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 4314
The expression over landing means many different things to different people.
So if you are going to remote places it will be a good idea to check availability of your preferred tyre size in more remote places.
Next check the age of the tyres before going on a trip. The older the tyre the more likely that the rubber has started to degrade which basically means rubber is more brittle and more likely to suffer from punctures. The age of the tyre can be found from date of manufacture in the DOT code.
Tyre manufacturers tend to recommend changing tyres at about 7 years irrespective of tyre wear. Personally if going on a long trip I will ensure my tyre age is less than 5 years if not 3 years depending where going..
Brendan
18th Oct 2021 6:07 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
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LT wrote:
Pirelli ATR's still showing as available in 255-60-18, which is the size I ran on my D4 (Compomotive 18" rims). Best all round tyre for my use.
OP mentioned 19 inch. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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