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Car Tyres (non Disco) Advice
Does anyone use all season tyres on their other cars if they have them?
I need to replace the front two tyres on my wife’s Volvo v40. I would be replacing the front two to match the rears which are Michelin Primacy 4 (a premium summer tyre).
I can’t decide if I should replace them with Michelin CrossClimate + (all season tyre). The downside to this is I assume I would need to replace all 4 tyres together, so increasing the cost. The tyres would need to stay on all year round, as I can’t be swapping to full winters and summers each year.
From what I’ve read, the crossclimate + seem to get great reviews and would certainly work better when below 7 degrees, but they seem to be a compromise above 7 degrees with the primacy 4 being better in the wet and dry above this.
I’m just struggling to decide as we live in the SE of England. We do get some cold weather, but we can also get some very prolonged hot weather as well. The car will normally just have my wife and daughter in, so I want them to be the best compromise possible for their safety.
Anyone got any experience in the above, and what does everyone else run?
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8th Nov 2020 8:37 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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CC+’s would be perfectly fine, my ILs run them on their 2WD Karoq and aren’t too far from you. We use proper winters up in the Heelands both of our cars but conditions are a tad more extreme up here.
8th Nov 2020 8:43 am
robpenrose
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Do you think the CC+ is worth upgrading though?
I can get them from Costco at the moment for about £114 fitted with their deal they have on. But I would need to replace all 4. The primacy 4 are about £105 fitted at the moment, but only need 2.
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8th Nov 2020 8:50 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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If it was me, yes. It’s only money and you can’t take it with you.
8th Nov 2020 8:53 am
riverblanche
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Hi,
Agree ^ CC's or any quality All Season tyre are worth fitting if your not going the route of summers and winters
Personally I would replace 2 that are needed now with CC's and other 2 to match when their ready, yes all 4 is better but everything is a balancing act ?
as for running in hotter weather, last Hol to Croatia (that seems a looooong time ago ) loads run full winter tyres all year round (they Have to fit for winter and dont take them off again!)
If your considering them, then yes worth fitting them Transit! 2019
Gone D3 HSE 2008
Another Porsche Cayenne 2022
Gone Porsche Cayenne 2020
Gone RRS HSE Dynamic 2016
Gone RRS HSE LUX 2011
Gone RRS HSE 2006
Gone D3 SE 2.7 2008
gone D2 Td5 1999
I plan on living forever and so far so good !
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8th Nov 2020 1:51 pm
lynalldiscovery
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Used to run all season tyres on the wifes merc, being rwd it was pretty much essential.
8th Nov 2020 2:25 pm
pjm-84
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Run the Crossclimates on my PHEV and Bridgestones A005 on the VWs (T5 and an work's GTE). Much prefer four season offerings.
The Crossclimates look a little chunky on the PHEV (side wall). The Bridgestone are a little more discrete.
8th Nov 2020 2:44 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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riverblanche wrote:
Personally I would replace 2 that are needed now with CC's and other 2 to match when their ready, yes all 4 is better but everything is a balancing act
There is a bid of a car on snow with winters on the front and normals on the rear. Will try and find it. OK on snow so a bit unlikely for Surrey but it’s going to be a snowy winter and the wheelie bins are at the ready, I can feel it in my bones!
Will try and dig the vid out.
PS Here ya go.
8th Nov 2020 2:53 pm
LT
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I run CC’s on the little iQ. Highly recommended for all year stress free driving. 👍2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
8th Nov 2020 3:15 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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It’s what we’d have on Skippy and SWMBO’s Jazz if we didn’t need full winters oop norf. That and you can never have enough sets of wheels.
8th Nov 2020 3:28 pm
robpenrose
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DSL wrote:
riverblanche wrote:
Personally I would replace 2 that are needed now with CC's and other 2 to match when their ready, yes all 4 is better but everything is a balancing act
There is a bid of a car on snow with winters on the front and normals on the rear. Will try and find it. OK on snow so a bit unlikely for Surrey but it’s going to be a snowy winter and the wheelie bins are at the ready, I can feel it in my bones!
Will try and dig the vid out.
PS Here ya go.
Cheers everyone. I’m sold on the CC+.
I rang Costco earlier and they have 10 in stock in the size I need. Booked in for tomorrow afternoon.
Will swap all 4 over as I don’t want any odd handling for my wife, especially if the weather gets a bit nasty.
Will keep the two other good tyres and maybe sell them.
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8th Nov 2020 3:51 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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How’s the spare, if you have a spare? You could put the best of the part worns on that.
8th Nov 2020 3:57 pm
riverblanche
Member Since: 31 Aug 2010
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robpenrose wrote:
I don’t want any odd handling for my wife,
Not unless you good discount Transit! 2019
Gone D3 HSE 2008
Another Porsche Cayenne 2022
Gone Porsche Cayenne 2020
Gone RRS HSE Dynamic 2016
Gone RRS HSE LUX 2011
Gone RRS HSE 2006
Gone D3 SE 2.7 2008
gone D2 Td5 1999
I plan on living forever and so far so good !
Club DG Mclaren stuff
.
8th Nov 2020 5:39 pm
DiscoRoyal
Member Since: 04 Apr 2017
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 108
Goodyear Vector Gen 2 .....Best all season tyres I have tried so far including the Michelin CC+
I have used the Gen 2 on my Sportage for the past 20k miles and found them superb in all weathers etc.
Just rotated front to rear to balance wear and all four tyres are still approx 6mm
This link is for the Gen 3 and by all accounts it improves on the Gen 2 in all areas.
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I have Nokian Weatherproof M&S on my XC70 D5 and have to say, they are very good. Bombed it down M4 and up to where I live (high) in the snow 2019 when M4 was virtually closed around Swindon, never a slide or problem. I subsequently found out I was only on 2WD...
Have to say that I am not renowned for driving slowly when safe to do so and at NSL on twisty Bs/unclassifieds in either wet/dry there is faff all difference to a "high performance" tyre. They're well within the capability of what the absolute majority of people would push at them, so having them all year round is seriously not an issue. I think tyre performance is over-thought by the anally retentive amongst us but one thing is certain - performance/normal road tyres don't work in snow but the other way around it doesn't matter for us normal peeps
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