33Lurcher
Member Since: 29 Jun 2017
Location: Glossop
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Just an update , when I ordered mid Sept I was told del end of Oct into Nov, asked for an update 10th Nov and got a call later that day to say all 2020 builds are now cancelled and any future builds will be MY2021 .
So instructed to resubmit order as per new specs , reorderd on a S spec which worked about £4000 less than original Sept SE order .
Got a call yesterday saying as LR/Finance not offering any incentives like previous order the monthly payments will increase by £70 per month , del March/April .
Considering this weekend whether to go ahead or cancel and deposit back .
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 19th Dec 2020 12:03 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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£840 a year extra for a lower spec cheaper car for an order cancelled by LR. Me personally, I’d walk. There are plenty of good / better alternatives out there. The other bonus is you don’t have to put up with Land Rover’s poor service. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 19th Dec 2020 12:51 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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It’s no secret that the D5 isn’t my favourite LR but, even if it had been, I wouldn’t accept a £70 per month increase for a down specced version of what I’d originally agreed to. I would bite their hand off for a refund; especially if you include lightly used, there are plenty of very interesting alternatives out there 👍 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 19th Dec 2020 2:17 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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al cope wrote:I don’t think I agree with the above statement about the roof bars, as I could put my Thule bars anywhere up and down the length of the rails on the D5, and add more cross bars if I wanted..
Al
I’ve never tried the Thule bars, I’ve only had the standard LR ones on the Fatty. However, there’s no getting away from the fact that the D4 had robust aluminium rails, while the Fatty’s are made from soft plastic, sprayed silver to make them look like aluminium. I fitted the cross bars twice and had to have the rails repainted twice in order to repair the damage to the rails. I’ve now not used the bars since (for nearly 3 years now!). 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 19th Dec 2020 4:18 pm |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
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Punch the spec into CarWow and see what other dealers can offer on it you may be able to get them to flinch and match if not go with another dealer or walk. MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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| 19th Dec 2020 8:02 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
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What you also now have to factor in, is the B word.
My new 90 is due March and I have no idea what it will cost, I’ve been told by my dealer and LR that the £48k price at the moment won’t be honoured. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 20th Dec 2020 10:50 am |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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Praying my Defender gets ashore soon.
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| 20th Dec 2020 11:49 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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J77 wrote:What you also now have to factor in, is the B word.
My new 90 is due March and I have no idea what it will cost, I’ve been told by my dealer and LR that the £48k price at the moment won’t be honoured.
Hadn’t considered that! Of course, assuming no deal, there’ll not only be 10% added to the price of the imported vehicle, but there’ll be a further 10% added to components shipped out from the U.K. which will probably include the engine. The £ may well lose 10% of its value overnight as well 🙁 A £48,000 Defender may well be nudging £60,000 by the spring. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 20th Dec 2020 12:35 pm |
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33Lurcher
Member Since: 29 Jun 2017
Location: Glossop
Posts: 228
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RDR wrote:Punch the spec into CarWow and see what other dealers can offer on it you may be able to get them to flinch and match if not go with another dealer or walk.
Got 3 other CarWow quotes yesterday , all dearer than my dealer by up to £35 per month .
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| 20th Dec 2020 1:22 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
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My XC90 arrives before the end of December so i'll avoid the risk of tariffs.  D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 20th Dec 2020 4:33 pm |
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pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2608
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Carwow is a little 
I obtained 5 quotes for the ID3 and I went back to the most expensive to tell him he was the most expensive and he dropped the price by £4k if we did a direct deal. (Pick it up on Tuesday)
I bought my PHEV back in 2015 via Carwow but it we never competitive for the purchase of a CH-R in 2019. I sensed that the dealers were playing the system as most quoted RRP when I actually ended up with £4800 off via AutoEbid
Used Carwow recently for a PHEV Defender 110 quote and was quoted RRP. Only one dealer messaged me and I told them that I would wait as I believe a price correction is inevitable.
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| 20th Dec 2020 6:42 pm |
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highlands
Member Since: 10 Jan 2010
Location: NW Highlands
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Red Merle wrote:but there’ll be a further 10% added to components shipped out from the U.K. which will probably include the engine.
Components that are imported to be used in manufacturing units for export are entitled to inward processing relief so that duties don't compound. Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
Grey 05 TDV6 HSE Auto (Gone)
54 TDV6 SE Man (killed by me )
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| 20th Dec 2020 6:58 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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J77 wrote:What you also now have to factor in, is the B word.
My new 90 is due March and I have no idea what it will cost, I’ve been told by my dealer and LR that the £48k price at the moment won’t be honoured.
My order would be cancelled in that case. If they can't honour a contract then they won't get my money. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 20th Dec 2020 7:59 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
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I don’t have to take delivery they say if it’s unaffordable. I’ll let the car arrive and then it’s work a deal or they’re stuck with a £50k+ car. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 20th Dec 2020 8:42 pm |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
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The 2021 car should be the better upgrade, but I wouldn’t want the price increase Mike
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| 26th Dec 2020 10:51 pm |
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