I need some tyres pdq and can only find Q or R ratingNew Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
30th Jul 2020 12:05 pm
Skynet
Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: Melksham, Wiltshire
Posts: 868
Sorry Moo, I'm on 18" Weathermaster WSC which I do rate, however I'm sure 19" version is available.Dave
D3 2006 HSE, Cairns Blue - gone
D4 2016 SE, White
I need some tyres pdq and can only find Q or R rating
I have just fitted a set to my D3 have only done 20 or 30 miles so far and they seem fine although that clearly isnāt an in depth road test. I paid Ā£100+Vat a corner for them.
30th Jul 2020 4:55 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23824
If youāre desperate I have some ATRās on 19ā rims. You know where I live. š2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
30th Jul 2020 4:59 pm
Pip66
Member Since: 26 Sep 2016
Location: Ely.
Posts: 170
I've got Cooper LTZ's on mine and Cooper STT's on the D2. No experience of ATT's but I'm delighted with what I have fitted.
Also nearly everyone of my friends run on Coopers and NO complaints from anyone.2008 G4 D3 vehicle No 11. UK selections.
2003 G4 D2 vehicle No 125. South African workshop car.
30th Jul 2020 7:26 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14129
If youāre desperate I have some ATRās on 19ā rims. You know where I live. š
Thanks pal. Only just seen this.
I'm getting a set of these fitted tomorrow. Its all I could get in my time frame. It'll be interesting to see how they compare to my AT3s and my previous Duratracs.
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
30th Jul 2020 8:26 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13541
If youāre desperate I have some ATRās on 19ā rims. You know where I live. š
The AT+ is an off-road biased tyre. The ATR is a racing slick in comparison. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
30th Jul 2020 11:55 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23824
Pirelli designed the AT+ to look a lot more āaggressiveā than the ATR. The later being sometimes criticised for looking to tame. In reality it was actually very good off-road, especially on a modern LR with the terrain response system.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
31st Jul 2020 7:42 am
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23824
If youāre desperate I have some ATRās on 19ā rims. You know where I live. š
Thanks pal. Only just seen this.
I'm getting a set of these fitted tomorrow. Its all I could get in my time frame. It'll be interesting to see how they compare to my AT3s and my previous Duratracs.
Those Avonās look good. Iāve not read any reviews of them. Will be interesting to hear how you get on with them and how well they wear. š2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
31st Jul 2020 8:06 am
kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6753
LT wrote:
Pirelli designed the AT+ to look a lot more āaggressiveā than the ATR. The later being sometimes criticised for looking to tame.
Indeed. The AT+ is meant for the US market (primarily) and they like their tires to look chunky and aggressive. Just like the fronts on the pickup trucks.
I can happily report that in Finland the AT+ tires that Iāve got on have gotten some curious looks at traffic lights but also at gas stations by other people.
I do like them and have now driven approximately 4000 km with them in the short time that Iāve had them on. I have not measured the noise level but it is not something Iām concerned with (= either music is too loud, the minions in the back make more noise or Iām going deaf ). Havenāt noticed any issues with stability in rainy situations either. Speeds between 0 km/h and approximately 120 km/h
FWIW I paid 150 e/tire including 24% VAT and shipping.
31st Jul 2020 8:15 am
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13541
LT wrote:
Pirelli designed the AT+ to look a lot more āaggressiveā than the ATR. The later being sometimes criticised for looking to tame. In reality it was actually very good off-road, especially on a modern LR with the terrain response system.
Pirelli state that the AT+ is off-road biased 60/40, not the usual 50/50 of an AT. That's what I was referring to although I admit that how I wrote it gave little clue to that.
The ATR is an excellent tyre, but I think the AT+ will shade it off road. On road, the ATR might be better although I've found the AT+ to be very good, even when "making progress" down an interesting road. The Grabber AT3 is a better tyre on road than the AT+, in my experience, but the I think the AT+ would be better off road in extremis. Both are very good tyres.
Looking on Pirelli's website, it appears the ATR is no longer available in 19 inch. That's the main reason I've never gone back to the ATR - Pirelli's supply of it is not consistent.
I do think that the ATR is a bit like the Vred Wintrac. Both got a reputation for being the go-to tyre of their type. But both have been left behind a bit by tyre developments. The Vred often did poorly in tests even whilst still being put forward by people hereabouts as the go-to winter tyre. Other AT tyres are as good/better than the ATR these days. They're also easily available, unlike the ATR. And they are winter rated too, again, unlike the ATR.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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). Havenāt noticed any issues with stability in rainy situations either. Speeds between 0 km/h and approximately 120 km/h 
