RAW
Member Since: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Devon
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The discovery sport face lift has done away with the rotary selector as has the Evouque so would expect this to continue through the range, Jag seem to be also replacing the rotary selector as well as models are upgraded. MY18 RRS Autobiography Fuji White
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24th Nov 2019 6:22 pm |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 2707
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It was a loss from the RRS stick to rotary but to be honest - i dont miss that, actually gives more central room, every cloud etc Mike
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24th Nov 2019 7:49 pm |
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Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
Location: Gone
Posts: 5117
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A stick is so 1980s retro. On that point alone, if they changed back to it, I wouldn’t buy another LR, period.
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24th Nov 2019 10:03 pm |
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defector
Member Since: 23 Feb 2009
Location: Greater Manchester
Posts: 1476
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I think most manufacturers are moving away from the rotary and back to a lever of some form. Certainly noticed it in Mercedes.
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24th Nov 2019 10:22 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13606
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I dislike the rotary gear control. Much prefer the gear lever and would buy the latter over the former by preference. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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24th Nov 2019 10:45 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
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25th Nov 2019 12:16 am |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
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I prefer the rotary but the lever feels comfortable in the new Defender so can’t see it bothering me too much. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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25th Nov 2019 12:20 am |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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I think the lever is more intuitive than the rotary knob. Glad to see LR seem to be heading back to it. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
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25th Nov 2019 7:26 am |
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Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
Location: Gone
Posts: 5117
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It will be bring back the pull up handbrake next. Old habits die hard.
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25th Nov 2019 8:13 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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I’m used to using the “knob”, but a “stick” is more intuitive and most importantly more precise.
What other manufacturers followed JLR in replacing a stick with a knob? 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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25th Nov 2019 8:19 am |
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Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
Location: Gone
Posts: 5117
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What other makes don’t bother me tbh unless I am in the market for a replacement and decide NOT to buy JLR.
A gear stick is intrusive into an area you could do without it. Twiddling a gear selector is infinitely better than playing about with a gear stick, but as in all things, it’s down to personal preference.
99% of the time, you put it in drive and forget about it until you stop or reverse, so why make an issue out of it unless you use it as somewhere to rest you hand?
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25th Nov 2019 8:32 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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Several times I’ve been in D and when wanting to select R I’ve twisted the knob slightly too far and ended up in P.
More importantly perhaps, on safety grounds when requiring to hang on to gear for longer, I found it quicker to be able to flick the lever in the 6 speed D4 to the right to select S, which I could do with my hand rather than having to be more precise and use my fingers.
It’s not a big issue for me, but when the subject arises on a forum I’ll often comment and state my reasons why I prefer the more precise action of a stick. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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25th Nov 2019 8:51 am |
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Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
Location: Gone
Posts: 5117
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As we all do and as mentioned above, “as in all things, it’s down to personal preference.”
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25th Nov 2019 9:07 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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Indeed it is.
As an exercise in interior design the “knob” is a triumph. I think it looks great and gives the illusion of greater space.
The reason it’s being dropped on some (all?) newer models is I believe due to the reasons I’ve stated. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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25th Nov 2019 9:20 am |
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Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1682
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Seem to remember it’s not possible to flick it into S. Don’t you have to press the brake pedal? Gary
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25th Nov 2019 9:28 am |
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