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At least the back seat comfort is not an issue.2014MY Discovery
27th Mar 2019 4:25 pm
Red Merle
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I had a nice chat with a D5 driving Highway's Agency member of staff today. He liked the car.
I asked if it was a 2 litre or a V6. He said that it was a V6 and they had quickly got rid of their 2 litre versions. When I asked why, he said that they were both up to the job of towing, but that they sit in their cars with their engines idling for extended periods of time and it was causing the 2 litre versions to regularly go into limp mode, but that the V6's had had no such problems. This was news to me.
It's interesting to see the lengths that they go to to apparently custom build a grown up, commercial duty, tow bar in order to cater for their recovery work 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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19th Jul 2019 7:54 pm
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Not sure how he could have been talking about the 2.0 as the HE D5 fleet are all V6's 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
25th Jul 2019 8:33 am
Red Merle
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Here’s a 2.0 litre:
The first HE vehicles were all 2.0 litre cars.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
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29th Jul 2019 9:21 pm
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Fairplay.... though they were a handful of demo vehicles
not aware of any similar issues with any civ 2.021 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
29th Jul 2019 9:28 pm
Red Merle
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The officer did say that it was due to the disproportionate amount of time that the cars spend idling, which would make sense and it’s unlikely to be an issue with most civilian cars 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
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29th Jul 2019 9:58 pm
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Still fail to see the relevance of idling being an issue tbh...but there we go 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
29th Jul 2019 10:09 pm
Red Merle
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Because long periods of idling will provide the soot to fill the DPF, but is likely to provide insufficient heat and gas throughput to burn it off again in time. Even LR have now informed their sales staff that some of their diesels are more vulnerable than others, due to greater distances between the exhaust manifold and the DPF.
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
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30th Jul 2019 5:17 am
Discologist
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I wonder how much all that “disproportionate idling” costs the taxpayer? It can’t all be essential.
30th Jul 2019 5:59 am
chugga90
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Must be due to flashing lights requirements and communication power requirements?
Also keeping them warm during winter months?Discovery commercial tdv6 auto 2013
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Discovery commercial sdv6 auto 2014 gone and not really missed.
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Freelander 2 I6 very sadly gone
VW t5 Dsg gone and missed
30th Jul 2019 6:03 am
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Red Merle wrote:
Because long periods of idling will provide the soot to fill the DPF, but is likely to provide insufficient heat and gas throughput to burn it off again in time. Even LR have now informed their sales staff that some of their diesels are more vulnerable than others, due to greater distances between the exhaust manifold and the DPF.
The D5 2.0 doesn't have that issue 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
30th Jul 2019 7:21 am
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30th Jul 2019 7:46 am
Red Merle
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DG wrote:
Red Merle wrote:
Because long periods of idling will provide the soot to fill the DPF, but is likely to provide insufficient heat and gas throughput to burn it off again in time. Even LR have now informed their sales staff that some of their diesels are more vulnerable than others, due to greater distances between the exhaust manifold and the DPF.
I am only reporting what the member of staff from the Highways England told me, as to why they had returned their 2.0’s and as to why they now have 3.0 V6’s 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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