Member Since: 29 Jun 2017
Location: Glossop
Posts: 228
Just Ordered One
Had the D4 for a couple of years and was worrying myself about crankshaft issues when it was out of warranty so we we went back to a DS.
Just had that 12 months with no issues but missing the space and driving position of the D4 , visited out usual dealer at the weekend and ordered a 2.0 Diesel SE .
There"s only 2 of us and no towing so happy to go with the SD4 Engine , Eiger Grey/Heated SW/Privacy/Interactive Driver Display/360 Cameras .
23rd Sep 2020 11:45 am
bammmy
Member Since: 12 Jan 2013
Location: Manchester
Posts: 138
You will love the D5, swapped my D4 for one, no regrets or no issues 👍
23rd Sep 2020 2:53 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23593
D5 has a very different driving position from a D4. Smaller glass area and you sit lower in the vehicle, with the centre console and dash being significantly higher.
Having driven 12.5k miles in a D5 this year, it was very noticeable getting back into the FFRR, which has a driving position and glass area much more akin to that of the D3/4. I think the taller windscreen on the D3/4/FFRR makes the most difference and the only two passengers I've had in the FFRR since getting it back last week have commented on that. The D5 is certainly more "sporty" and car like.
That's not intended to be in anyway a negative statement, some will prefer it and some, myself included, won't. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
23rd Sep 2020 3:14 pm
33Lurcher
Member Since: 29 Jun 2017
Location: Glossop
Posts: 228
Thanks for the replies
24th Sep 2020 8:48 am
al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10336
Enjoy it - I also have the 2Ltr D5, and whilst very different to the D4, is a very nice place to be whilst watching the world go by
AlVolvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
24th Sep 2020 11:01 am
pagoda
Member Since: 13 Aug 2009
Location: Not London Anymore (or the US for that matter)
Posts: 1928
I'm in the US and the D4 prices here are rocketing - to the point where it's silly. D5 prices are nothing like as strong for second hand vehicles.
I want to replace by D3 V8 with a D4 2016 but I'm reluctant to pay what the vehicles are getting.
Can I ask for a few views from those who've had the D4 and the D5 what the difference is in terms of load carrying? We use the D3 as a workhorse. We do a lot of work around the house and it's used for everything from carrying 14 ft deck planks on the roof to top soil in the boot. We also need to be able to place two quite heavy kayaks on the roof and load it up for camping. We use the cargo barrier all the time, and the dog cage most of the time.
Any noticeable differences between the two vehicles as I'm wondering if I need to re-think my plan given D4 prices.
Would appreciate any thoughts.PAGODA
24th Sep 2020 2:57 pm
al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10336
@ Pagoda
Yes, whilst D3 and D4 are quite van like (i.e quite Square) the D5 isnt. Dont get me wrong, you can get a huge amount of stuff into a D5 (see one of my other posts), but access isnt as easy, as the rear opening isnt as good on the D5 (not as square or as tall as D3/4). But the D5 has a longer rear bed length with all the seats down. As for roof load, I have only had ladders on the roof, but dont LR say 75Kg rating on the roof bars anyway?. I have the long roof rails on my D5 with Thule crossbars.
Hope that small amount of info helps
AlVolvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
24th Sep 2020 3:26 pm
pagoda
Member Since: 13 Aug 2009
Location: Not London Anymore (or the US for that matter)
Posts: 1928
Thanks, Al, that's very helpful. I may test drive one; the stealer is close by. I checked to see if they do the cargo divider for the D5 as they do with the D3 and 4 but it seems not. Such a shame. We'd be lost with out it the amount of crap we cart around.PAGODA
25th Sep 2020 2:21 pm
John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 3292
Biggest surprise on mine... on a fill up I get around 620mile range off a tank. On my D3 I get 420-450. You don't drive either car if fuel economy if forefront of your mind, but very noticeable how longer I go between fill-ups!2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
25th Sep 2020 10:03 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23593
pagoda wrote:
Thanks, Al, that's very helpful. I may test drive one; the stealer is close by. I checked to see if they do the cargo divider for the D5 as they do with the D3 and 4 but it seems not. Such a shame. We'd be lost with out it the amount of crap we cart around.
I’ve seen a D5 with a cargo divider. I assumed it was a LR one. Perhaps it was a custom build or aftermarket specialist. It was used to separate lurchers.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
25th Sep 2020 10:12 pm
pagoda
Member Since: 13 Aug 2009
Location: Not London Anymore (or the US for that matter)
Posts: 1928
Perfectly prepared to accept I got that wrong. My search was not exhaustive. It'd be good to know they have made one. We find that the barrier and the dog cage are invaluable. (It really does keep the children quiet).PAGODA
25th Sep 2020 10:49 pm
chugga90
Member Since: 13 Aug 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
Posts: 441
Gaff tape and cable ties also available.Discovery commercial tdv6 auto 2013
Volkswagen t6 lwb Kombi dsg 4motion 2018
Volkswagen t5.1 lwb single cab tipper 2013
Discovery commercial sdv6 auto 2014 gone and not really missed.
Range Rover Tdv8 gone
Freelander 2 I6 very sadly gone
VW t5 Dsg gone and missed
26th Sep 2020 7:53 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
pagoda wrote:
I'm in the US and the D4 prices here are rocketing - to the point where it's silly. D5 prices are nothing like as strong for second hand vehicles.
I want to replace by D3 V8 with a D4 2016 but I'm reluctant to pay what the vehicles are getting.
Can I ask for a few views from those who've had the D4 and the D5 what the difference is in terms of load carrying? We use the D3 as a workhorse. We do a lot of work around the house and it's used for everything from carrying 14 ft deck planks on the roof to top soil in the boot. We also need to be able to place two quite heavy kayaks on the roof and load it up for camping. We use the cargo barrier all the time, and the dog cage most of the time.
Any noticeable differences between the two vehicles as I'm wondering if I need to re-think my plan given D4 prices.
Would appreciate any thoughts.
A couple of things to add to what’s already been said:
1. The roof rails on the D4 are the best and most versatile I’ve ever used; you can fit as many cross bars as you like and put them wherever you want them. The rails on the D5 (which are almost identical to my current Fatty) are no where near as practical and robust. The ability to leave the drop down tailgate open and still close the top half also made it a great platform to stand on while loading/unloading the roof and finally, the near vertical sides made accessing the roof much easier. Consequently, I’ve sold my roof carrying stuff and now pull a trailer instead - would that help you? It gives a lot more practical space than even the D4 provided:
2. If the low loading height is helpful, bear in mind that the very lowest loading height possible in the ‘5 (even using the extra lowering facility in the boot) is only as low as the ‘4 was in its normal height setting.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
26th Sep 2020 8:37 am
al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10336
I don’t think I agree with the above statement about the roof bars, as I could put my Thule bars anywhere up and down the length of the rails on the D5, and add more cross bars if I wanted..
AlVolvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
26th Sep 2020 1:44 pm
pagoda
Member Since: 13 Aug 2009
Location: Not London Anymore (or the US for that matter)
Posts: 1928
Red Merle wrote:
pagoda wrote:
I'm in the US and the D4 prices here are rocketing - to the point where it's silly. D5 prices are nothing like as strong for second hand vehicles.
I want to replace by D3 V8 with a D4 2016 but I'm reluctant to pay what the vehicles are getting.
Can I ask for a few views from those who've had the D4 and the D5 what the difference is in terms of load carrying? We use the D3 as a workhorse. We do a lot of work around the house and it's used for everything from carrying 14 ft deck planks on the roof to top soil in the boot. We also need to be able to place two quite heavy kayaks on the roof and load it up for camping. We use the cargo barrier all the time, and the dog cage most of the time.
Any noticeable differences between the two vehicles as I'm wondering if I need to re-think my plan given D4 prices.
Would appreciate any thoughts.
A couple of things to add to what’s already been said:
1. The roof rails on the D4 are the best and most versatile I’ve ever used; you can fit as many cross bars as you like and put them wherever you want them. The rails on the D5 (which are almost identical to my current Fatty) are no where near as practical and robust. The ability to leave the drop down tailgate open and still close the top half also made it a great platform to stand on while loading/unloading the roof and finally, the near vertical sides made accessing the roof much easier. Consequently, I’ve sold my roof carrying stuff and now pull a trailer instead - would that help you? It gives a lot more practical space than even the D4 provided:
2. If the low loading height is helpful, bear in mind that the very lowest loading height possible in the ‘5 (even using the extra lowering facility in the boot) is only as low as the ‘4 was in its normal height setting.
Thanks. I do appreciate the feedback. I absolutely adore the FFRR; I've driven a friend's supercharged V8 and I'd have one tomorrow if it wasn't for the pesky dog, family, etc.
I'm going to continue running the gauntlet of LR4s over here for a while longer. Found a nice 2015 with great spec a couple of hundred miles N of me, but it turns out it was involved in a rear-end shunt. The seller says damage was light, but I'm wary. I know from experience that these are built like tanks, but I could do without the hassle.PAGODA
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