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Well that would put a new LR "spin" on things yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
6th Jan 2020 2:36 am
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8156
Nah, they’ve lost count at 99 It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
6th Jan 2020 10:42 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Or still counting.
6th Jan 2020 11:12 am
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1564
There’s definitely been some. Oval posted about two in a week at one point in the year.
104 looking good then !Gary
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6th Jan 2020 11:13 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
I know I said too many. I still stand by that, but my official guesstimate is 2.5 per week. 130 over the last year
Mikey,
Based on your experience, what would you say that the % chance of the average D4, or D3, V6 failing in any one year are?2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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6th Jan 2020 4:32 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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It would seem that all MY's are at risk, from 2010 up till 18MY
I stopped at 18MY, as I have not heard of any 19/20MY having gone pop yet...
All that said however, to the best of my knowledge, not one D4/RRS/405/494 that we have serviced has suffered a crank issue...
And for the record, we only use OEM oil filters and Petronas oils, and before that, Comma oil My D3 Build Thread
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
It would seem that all MY's are at risk, from 2010 up till 18MY
I stopped at 18MY, as I have not heard of any 19/20MY having gone pop yet...
All that said however, to the best of my knowledge, not one D4/RRS/405/494 that we have serviced has suffered a crank issue...
And for the record, we only use OEM oil filters and Petronas oils, and before that, Comma oil
Do you notice cars coming in for services with low oil? As in, when you drain the oil out, is there generally less than say 5.5l, or are they generally all coming back in relatively full?
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7th Jan 2020 10:15 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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Most of them are underfilled. Not all, but some come in with worrying little oil in them...
We had one D4 in for a steering column, lower wishbones and brakes to be replaced. Was dropped off the night before, we started it up to bring it in and it rattled for a good 10 seconds. They dont even rattle that long after an oil change
It took 3.5 litres to bring it up to the maximum level. And it wasnt due a service...My D3 Build Thread
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I do wonder if some cases of the shells spinning causing crank failure is all down to the oil.
Either people not checking the oil enough or using the wrong oil.
In your example above, assuming the car has a DPF, the small amount of oil that's left will also have diesel in it as well, diluting the oil, so it could be well out of spec. Obviously complete speculation!
I just find it really bizarre that no one has managed to pin point the issue and fix it. It almost appears random which i just don't understand how it can be.
The majority of the public don't check the oil levels enough, let alone understand oil specifications. If you're buying a used vehicle, who knows what oil has been run through it.
But i also know people have had engines fail who have had services every few thousand miles, and dealer serviced etc, so it does seem random!
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7th Jan 2020 4:02 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
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What I miss from my D3 is a dipstick. Such a brilliantly simple idea.New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
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7th Jan 2020 4:24 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
We're running a sweepstake on how many 2 piece cranks we expect to see this year in our workshop. The rule is simple; just reply your guess and we'll let you know the correct number by next Christmas
Lynalldiscovery - It's been rather quiet since then?
NJSSAm I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
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2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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Joe's last post was 20th December. If he's done the fixes on the number of cranks some of you lot have guessed, i bet he doesn't need to work until March ....... 2022
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